# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1281 "2013-03-15T02:35:48Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you don’t like the way that I communicate with others, I am not the one who has a problem. Ok but if _everyone_ dislikes the way that you communicate with others, you would do well to ask yourself _why_. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1282 "2013-03-15T02:41:15Z")
^^^ I wouldn’t wonder why. I would just pray that people wake up and see the light soon. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1283 "2013-03-15T03:05:01Z")
I was alerted that there was a question as to why I started this thread… to educate those that are actually educable. Initially, I knew nothing of the pitted poster, but I do know that, like myself, many members here have suffered from mental problems that have had them attempting suicide. Further, there’s also been quite a few of members’ loved ones who have died due to similar issues at their own hand. Knowing the stigma those of us face that do deal with these things on a daily basis, it’s only good for the evolving of humanity to combat such antiquated, damaging and shameful beliefs. However, this is only possible with people who care about being compassionate, understanding and helpful individuals. I had no idea how much a futile cause this would be in this case. That said, I’d like to encourage those still participating to let this thread fall off the front page for a couple of reasons… 1. “You cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.” I think that’s the most telling thing we need to consider here. If someone espouses nothing more than mindless rhetoric, fight against the ignorance briefly so that you can possibly help others, then move on. 2. We know what they all say about “winning” on the internet. 3. This paraphrase bears repeating, if you wrestle with a pig, you’ll get dirty and the pig likes it. So, in conclusion, lets let the object of ire have the last word and channel our desire to make a difference somewhere that we actually can. This entire site is populated by folks who’d like to eradicate misconceptions they have. Let us focus on those who wish to be the change they want to see in the world and leave these sorts to their own devices. Also, specifically the ignore function IS GOD. I highly recommend never having to read inane drivel again. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1284 "2013-03-15T03:08:03Z")
At this point I’m pretty sure that the Straight Dope is running some sort of AI Algorithm to see if they can finally get me to put someone on my ignore list. This prayer-warrior shit is getting pretty stale. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1285 "2013-03-15T03:20:44Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Let us focus on those who wish to be the change they want to see in the world and leave these sorts to their own devices. You know your Gandhi. Very good. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. For those of you who don’t know this quote from him, here it is: “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” I don’t know about y’all, but I try to do just that. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1286 "2013-03-15T03:29:36Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you don’t like that I keep God around by saying “God bless you always!!!” when everyone else is trying to get rid of him, **YOU** are the one with the problem, not me. Who is trying to get rid of god? > [@](#): > > A true blooded troll says anything whether it has anything to do with the subject of the chat or not. Actually, that’s not quite true. > [@](#): > > If you don’t like the way that I communicate with others, I am not the one who has a problem. Apparently, you do have a problem. You keep whining and carrying on about how you have all these “rights” and no one can tell you what to do and blah blah blah. And just because people who have the right to not share your bizarre beliefs _ask you nicely to quit forcing your god on them_. It’s all about you and what you want - you have zero consideration for anyone else. > [@](#): > > No that was not my intention, but if people choose to have certain feelings about me, Nobody “chooses” the feelings they have in reaction to what you post. I realize you are completely unaware that other people have feelings, but you should be able to understand something that simple. Did you “choose” how you feel about James Otto? > [@](#): > > This isn’t the only forum that I go to and at a good deal of the others ones that I go to, I have gotten a way better response about my favorites than I have at this one, so no worries concerning this matter that you bring up here. Then go there. The world is full of idiots and delusionals, go where they appreciate your style of writing. > [@](#): > > If that is how you think that I act, then how should the way that y’all act be labeled? To me, the way that y’all act is nothing but a word that I can’t say. Responses in kind. You act like a bitch, you get treated like a bitch. > [@](#): > > Well if we can’t share anything about ourselves, what is the purpose of a message forum at all then? Blessing us after every fucking post is not sharing something about yourself, its inserting your brand of delusion into everything. > [@](#): > > If you run a search of all the messages that I have left here, you will see that not all of them are about my favorite celebrities or where I stand on religious matters. Whoopdedoo. You actually managed to post somewhere here without having your god bless whoever? > [@](#): > > I lie to no one You lie. You lie about how you make your living, you lie about your relationship with James Otto, you lied about taking care of your mother. > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t wonder why. I would just pray that people wake up and see the light soon. And you are a bitch. Other people have the right to not have your god shoved down their throats. And you have delusions of grandeur, since you seem to think that anyone who doesn’t believe as you do just need to “wake up and see the light” as if you are somehow so smart so special that you know the One Right Way. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1287 "2013-03-15T03:30:54Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > At this point I’m pretty sure that the Straight Dope is running some sort of AI Algorithm to see if they can finally get me to put someone on my ignore list. > > This prayer-warrior shit is getting pretty stale. I refuse. I will never ignore any poster. I am afraid I may miss something, even if it is a horrible something. And screw you JOSH. Not everyone is trying to get rid of God. So screw you for saying that, you are a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1288 "2013-03-15T03:49:16Z")
^^^ That is one reason why I don’t ignore anyone either. And maybe not everyone is trying to get rid of God, but enough people are to where people like me who stand for him are not going to let them people get away with trying to get rid of him. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Who is trying to get rid of god? Everyone who doesn’t think that his name should be where its been for so long, like on our money for example, the pledge of allegiance for another. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Actually, that’s not quite true. Yes it is. I have been online for almost ten years now and I have seen plenty of trolls. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Apparently, you do have a problem. You keep whining and carrying on about how you have all these “rights” and no one can tell you what to do and blah blah blah. And just because people who have the right to not share your bizarre beliefs _ask you nicely to quit forcing your god on them_. It’s all about you and what you want - you have zero consideration for anyone else. Like I’ve said I don’t know how many times so far, the ignore feature is here for you to use if you hate what comes from me enough. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Nobody “chooses” the feelings they have in reaction to what you post. I realize you are completely unaware that other people have feelings, but you should be able to understand something that simple. Did you “choose” how you feel about James Otto? I chose my feelings for James just like everyone else chooses the feelings that they have too. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Then go there. The world is full of idiots and delusionals, go where they appreciate your style of writing. I go where I happen to find interesting chats to leave my two cents in and some of them chats just happen to be here, thank you very much. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@curlcoat](#): > > Responses in kind. You act like a bitch, you get treated like a bitch. The rest of y’all here don’t exactly act like a saint here either, but do you see me jumping on you for it? If I do it is because y’all decided to jump on me first. From now on, maybe y’all should remember the saying that goes like this: “Do unto others what you would want done to you.” > [@curlcoat](#): > > Blessing us after every fucking post is not sharing something about yourself, its inserting your brand of delusion into everything. Actually saying that does share something about me. It shows that I am not afraid to stand for the Lord. > [@curlcoat](#): > > You lie. You lie about how you make your living, you lie about your relationship with James Otto, you lied about taking care of your mother. Everything that I have shared about me and those that I love is true whether you believe me or not and I have the Lord as my witness whether y’all believe that he exists or not. > [@curlcoat](#): > > And you are a bitch. Other people have the right to not have your god shoved down their throats. And you have delusions of grandeur, since you seem to think that anyone who doesn’t believe as you do just need to “wake up and see the light” as if you are somehow so smart so special that you know the One Right Way. And if you think that I am shoving God down the throats of the rest of y’all, once again, the ignore feature is here if you hate what comes from me enough. God bless you two and James and my mom always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1289 "2013-03-15T03:49:17Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > You know your Gandhi. Very good. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly > P.S. For those of you who don’t know this quote from him, here it is: “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” I don’t know about y’all, but I try to do just that. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Coming from you, that’s just plain mean. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1290 "2013-03-15T03:52:05Z")
^^^ Oh well, that is the way that you choose to look at it. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1291 "2013-03-15T03:57:25Z")
Jesus personally told me he thinks JOSH sucks. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1292 "2013-03-15T04:02:00Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ That is one reason why I don’t ignore anyone either. And maybe not everyone is trying to get rid of God, but enough people are to where people like me who stand for him are not going to let them people get away with trying to get rid of him. Why is it that people like you think that God needs you to defend him or protect Him or His name? Why is God so powerless in your world? God doesn’t need your help nor does he need you to shove him down everyone’s throat all the time. I am super-religious, others on this board will tell you, I am a Sunday School teacher, every Sunday church goer, pray every morning, night, and meal time, love God and Jesus with all my heart, raise my children in the church, yet I don’t feel the need to shove God at people who do not want to hear it. Those who do will come to you and genuinely ask about Him, those who don’t will only be further turned off by your aggressive unwanted proselytizing. You are not making a difference for good in the world, you are the “Christian” people hate. You are a horrible example and God doesn’t need help from someone like you, you are only hurting His cause. However, the Devil would love to shake your hand, you are making life very easy for him. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1293 "2013-03-15T05:18:26Z")
^^^ Obviously you do not know him well enough to know that he wants us to take his word to the people especially to those who don’t even know who he is. People like you who don’t do such a thing are those that he most likely shakes his head at and probably more than you realize. After all, the best way for evil to triumph is for good to stand there and not do a thing. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Jesus personally told me he thinks JOSH sucks. I believe that Jesus loves **everyone** …including those like yourself. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you two always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1294 "2013-03-15T05:30:02Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > People like you are those that he most likely shakes his head at Does God have dreads? “SMH”-holy style would seem to demand it. ---
**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1295 "2013-03-15T06:02:00Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > "… if you’re that desperate for a compliment, I’m glad to oblige. I’ll take hers if she doesn’t want it! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1296 "2013-03-15T06:03:17Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I believe that Jesus loves **everyone** …including those like yourself. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you two always!!! > Holly Everyone? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1297 "2013-03-15T06:55:50Z")
You have to love it when someone says they absolutely refuse to use the ignore function but practically demand that _you_ use it. Or maybe you don’t have to love it. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1298 "2013-03-15T07:43:13Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Obviously you do not know him well enough to know that he wants us to take his word to the people especially to those who don’t even know who he is. Oh, the arrogance, it burns. And the irony too, can’t forget the irony. You do realise that through your moronic and meaningless regurges you have singlehandedly managed to guarantee that at least (3000? wild guess) people will either never or never again set foot into a church? Way to go!! If there was a God, I’m sure he’d be :smack:ing himself as to how you could be so dumb as to MISS THE POINT. > [@](#): > > People like you who don’t do such a thing are those that he most likely shakes his head at and probably more than you realize. There ya go **April R** , you’re just a _baaaaad_ Christian. Nowhere near as Christian as our resident nutjob JOSH…if you could only be more like _her_, God wouldn’t have neck problems from all that head-shaking. I wonder if God can yank his own neck?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1299 "2013-03-15T08:15:23Z")
Battle Pirates is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1300 "2013-03-15T10:03:19Z")
> [@living\_in\_hell](#): > > Yah. I hate when people do that too. Luckily I have so much poise and class that when I do it it’s\* fucking charming!\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=66)