# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1321 "2013-03-15T23:29:00Z")

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^^^ Oh well. They have their beliefs and I have my own. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1322 "2013-03-16T01:32:55Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I’ve heard it said that idle hands are the Devil’s handy work. When was the last time that you put yours to work?

How about today when I had to drive myself to the hospital because I was having contractions and only 30 weeks pregnant. Bitch  
I have a life outside the internet, and children, a husband, and friends. Sorry your life is so empty and pathetic you have to assuage your boredom picking fights with strangers on a message board. You are a pathetic, lonely bitch, and you aren’t doing anyone any favors, esp God.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1323 "2013-03-16T01:47:45Z")

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^^^ Swearing is another thing that is against the word of the Lord.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly  
P.S. The story that you gave me here is not what I meant by putting your hands to work. I meant when was the last time that you shared anything about the word of the Lord with others. I pray that everything is okay with you and your baby though. Is there any special reason why your husband couldn’t drive you to the hospital?

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1324 "2013-03-16T02:18:50Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> When evil triumphs it is because good is too scared to face it.  
> God bless you five always!!!  
> Holly

I came in to thank you for not using the three smilie face sign-off. But then,

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well. They have their beliefs and I have my own. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

You came back the very next post and did it again. I was hopeful. But, you just couldn’t resist.

A couple of questions for you, J.O.S.H.

Where do you find the time to post to all of the message boards you seem to have signed up for?

Are you one person, or a group of people (kind of like that guy in the 70’s that would pop up at ever big sporting event wearing the rainbow wig and John 3:16 shirts)? For those of you that don’t know, Rainbow John was more than one person. Perhaps J.O.S.H. is also.

Does James Otto have a restraining order against you?

Does he know what you post using his name? I know you aren’t implying he says the things you post, but I have never heard of you. And until you showed up here, I never heard of James Otto, either. Normally, I would check out J.O., but you are so off-putting, I would never listen to anything of his knowingly, and I am not interested in his music, art, or whatever. And that is **directly because of you**. Instead of honoring this man you seem to adore, you are detracting from him by using his name on posts that clearly indicate you are a few cans short of a 12-pack.

You seem to love the anger you being out in people, rolling around in it like a pig in mud. That is fascinating to me. What on earth causes you to behave in such a bizarre manner using someone else’s real name? Show some courage… Change your user name to your own. At least you wouldn’t be hiding behind poor Mr. Otto’s name.

You have given me the idea of making sure that J.O.S.H. does not post on every message board in the world. So every time I stumble on a message board, I will sign up using J.O.S.H. this will at least force you to choose another name that won’t show up when someone googles J.O.S.H. if ONLY someone would have had the chance to orphan that name on this board before you showed up. But alas, no such luck.

Just so you know, I really don’t know much about your personal or political views other than your love for J.O. and the few posts of yours I’ve been unfortunate to stumble on. And you are correct about the ignore feature. However, I would think someone like you would WANT people to read your posts… I mean, isn’t that the whole point of joining a message board?

I have to say, God Bless James Otto always, because with fans like you, he doesn’t need enemies.  
😕😕😕

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1325 "2013-03-16T02:37:31Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I meant when was the last time that you shared anything about the word of the Lord with others.

Sharing the word of the Lord is not enough; it also matters HOW you share it. Let me give you a real, observed example.

Often in central London you get street preachers of various varieties. One Saturday I was walking down a very crowded street when I saw a man on the sidewalk holding up a megaphone and preaching the Gospels to all and sundry passing by. Of course, because the sidewalks were so crowded he was shouting his amplified message at people who were often less than five feet away, and I saw person after person wince in pain at the high volume of his pronouncement delivered at close range.

Obviously I have no data for this but from what I observed I doubt he converted anyone. If anything, he drove them away, for despite his words the real message he was conveying was “Christians are inconsiderate jerks who don’t care how much pain and irritation they cause as long as they get to preach at people”. The guy probably went home every night thinking we were all too lost to understand what he was trying to say, never realizing that he himself was sabotaging his own message.

And while you’re not shouting in people’s ears, you are certainly demonstrating the smug sanctimony of a person saying “I’m going to tell you about the Lord whether you like it or not, and if you find me annoying that’s your problem”. You either don’t realize or don’t care that the picture that you’ve built up of yourself here - and this is entirely based on your own posts, not the posts of your other detractors - is of someone who talks about the Lord to make them feel good about themselves and not to teach others. Teaching others is _hard_; it is done by example and by listening to others, and not just by cut-and-paste sign-offs and country music lyrics.

I’m offering this as a genuinely constructive criticism. But if the rest of this thread (and it is a thread, not a chat) is anything to go by, you’ll simply smile and shrug and once again say

> [@](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well. They have their beliefs and I have my own. :):)🙂

Which will only go to show that you really don’t care.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1326 "2013-03-16T02:40:32Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I meant when was the last time that you shared anything about the word of the Lord with others.

I _did_ share the word of the Lord with you. Jesus told me you sucked. But you won’t believe it. Now I see how difficult proselytizing is.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1327 "2013-03-16T02:46:11Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Swearing is another thing that is against the word of the Lord.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. The story that you gave me here is not what I meant by putting your hands to work. I meant when was the last time that you shared anything about the word of the Lord with others. I pray that everything is okay with you and your baby though. Is there any special reason why your husband couldn’t drive you to the hospital?

Give me the scripture that says bitch is a swear word. Also declaring the word is using your mouth not your hands. Building a home for a needy family, collecting food for the food bank, donating clothes to a womans shelter. That is what is ment by using your hands to do the Lord’s work. I donated clothes yesterday. When is the last time you ever did any charitable work?

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1328 "2013-03-16T03:17:12Z")

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^^^ You may not believe that what you said is a swear word, but I believe that it is whether you like it or not and I just happened to have donated a good deal of clothes last year to Good Will and for the past five years I have sent what I can to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital which I plan to do again as soon as my taxes are done. 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Sharing the word of the Lord is not enough; it also matters HOW you share it.

I couldn’t agree with you more there. Delivery is most definitely everything, which is why some people sadly need a good slapping upside the head.

> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I _did_ share the word of the Lord with you. Jesus told me you sucked. But you won’t believe it. Now I see how difficult proselytizing is.

The Lord doesn’t say that anyone sucks, but Satan does so if that is who you pray to, you are of course praying to the wrong person which doesn’t surprise me. Oh and for the record, the message that you responded to there was not for you.

> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Where do you find the time to post to all of the message boards you seem to have signed up for?
> 
> Are you one person, or a group of people (kind of like that guy in the 70’s that would pop up at ever big sporting event wearing the rainbow wig and John 3:16 shirts)? For those of you that don’t know, Rainbow John was more than one person. Perhaps J.O.S.H. is also.
> 
> Does James Otto have a restraining order against you?
> 
> Does he know what you post using his name? I know you aren’t implying he says the things you post, but I have never heard of you. And until you showed up here, I never heard of James Otto, either. Normally, I would check out J.O., but you are so off-putting, I would never listen to anything of his knowingly, and I am not interested in his music, art, or whatever. And that is **directly because of you**. Instead of honoring this man you seem to adore, you are detracting from him by using his name on posts that clearly indicate you are a few cans short of a 12-pack.
> 
> You seem to love the anger you being out in people, rolling around in it like a pig in mud. That is fascinating to me. What on earth causes you to behave in such a bizarre manner using someone else’s real name? Show some courage… Change your user name to your own. At least you wouldn’t be hiding behind poor Mr. Otto’s name.
> 
> You have given me the idea of making sure that J.O.S.H. does not post on every message board in the world. So every time I stumble on a message board, I will sign up using J.O.S.H. this will at least force you to choose another name that won’t show up when someone googles J.O.S.H. if ONLY someone would have had the chance to orphan that name on this board before you showed up. But alas, no such luck.
> 
> Just so you know, I really don’t know much about your personal or political views other than your love for J.O. and the few posts of yours I’ve been unfortunate to stumble on. And you are correct about the ignore feature. However, I would think someone like you would WANT people to read your posts… I mean, isn’t that the whole point of joining a message board?
> 
> I have to say, God Bless James Otto always, because with fans like you, he doesn’t need enemies.

I am one person who is blessed to have the ability to go to the message forums that I am at to spread the name of a special person in my life who for the record has no restraining order of any form against me. A person who I know what **not** be happy to learn that I am being harassed.  
God bless you four and James always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1329 "2013-03-16T03:35:32Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I am one person who is blessed to have the ability to go to the message forums that I am at to spread the name of a special person in my life who for the record has no restraining order of any form against me. A person who I know what **not** be happy to learn that I am being harassed.  
> God bless you four and James always!!!  
> Holly

I wonder how he’d feel if he knew about the huge amount of damage you are doing to his name/brand.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1330 "2013-03-16T03:44:22Z")

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^^^ How do you know that it is a huge amount when this most definitely is not the only forum that I have spread the word about him at?  
God bless you and him always!!!  
Holly  
P.S. I can’t count the number of people who have took the time to tell me in one way or another that James is blessed to have a fan like me. 🙂 🙂 🙂

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**Author:** ![Trick\_Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Trick\_Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trick_Rider)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1331 "2013-03-16T03:45:20Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I couldn’t agree with you more there. Delivery is most definitely everything, which is why some people sadly need a good slapping upside the head.

This has to be a joke, right?

On a related note, I never thought that one phrase could make my blood boil as much as “God bless you always” does now.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1332 "2013-03-16T03:46:42Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> How far is it from Tulsa to Topeka?

Its four hours up from here, and when I leave I’m going left, so poo!

> [@](#):
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> I give the recipe, but that wouldn’t be the same as coming here, now would it?

Nope, especially since I won’t be anywhere near an oven for a couple of weeks!

Probably just as well … they sound really tasty, and fattening! 😃

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> You may not believe that what you said is a swear word, but I believe that it is whether you like it or not

So, because you believe something, it’s fact? That sure explains a lot about your posts.

> [@](#):
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> for the past five years I have sent what I can to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital which I plan to do again as soon as my taxes are done.

Well, there’s proof of another lie - anyone who works at McDonalds doesn’t need to have their taxes “done”.

> [@](#):
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> I am one person who is blessed to have the ability to go to the message forums that I am at to spread the name of a special person in my life who for the record has no restraining order of any form against me. A person who I know what **not** be happy to learn that I am being harassed.

Heh, why don’t you point him here and we’ll see the truth of what he thinks?

Bitch.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1333 "2013-03-16T03:51:21Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> P.S. I can’t count the number of people who have took the time to tell me in one way or another that James is blessed to have a fan like me. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Show us _one_. That should be easy, right? If you are on all these other messageboards that welcome and enjoy your presence, it should be as easy as “copy and paste” to show us cretins here at the SDMB an (non sarcastic) example of someone saying anything like this ^^^.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1334 "2013-03-16T03:59:51Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ How do you know that it is a huge amount when this most definitely is not the only forum that I have spread the word about him at?  
> God bless you and him always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. I can’t count the number of people who have took the time to tell me in one way or another that James is blessed to have a fan like me. 🙂 🙂 🙂

“Who have took the time?” :smack: Actually, that makes sense. And if you “can’t count the number of people”, you must not have learned how to count at all.

James is cursed, not blessed, to have a “fan” like you. The fact that you are so blind to the damage is truly a crime.

But, whatever. I thank God I don’t have you as a devoted fan. You would absolutely scare me because talking to you has no impact on you at all. Regardless of what anyone says, if it doesn’t fit into your small box of what makes sense to you, it is dismissed immediately. That box of yours? That’s a pretty small and lonely place to be. I’m guessing J.O. wouldn’t want to be in there with you, that’s for sure.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1335 "2013-03-16T04:01:47Z")

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^^^ In the five years that I have been a fan of James, plenty of people have taken the time. by the way, who would want to be a fan of a person who goes by the name Stink Fish Pot?

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Show us _one_. That should be easy, right? If you are on all these other messageboards that welcome and enjoy your presence, it should be as easy as “copy and paste” to show us cretins here at the SDMB an (non sarcastic) example of someone saying anything like this ^^^.

Look at message #18 on this page [here](http://thebluegrassandcountrymusicforum.yuku.com/topic/3298/James-Otto?page=1#.UUPuYDeEZ2E). 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@Trick\_Rider](#):
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> This has to be a joke, right?
> 
> On a related note, I never thought that one phrase could make my blood boil as much as “God bless you always” does now.

I don’t have time for jokes and if your blood boilings at what I say, I just look on the bright side. I guess that I know how to move a person. 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@curlcoat](#):
>
> Well, there’s proof of another lie - anyone who works at McDonalds doesn’t need to have their taxes “done”.
> 
> Heh, why don’t you point him here and we’ll see the truth of what he thinks?
> 
> Bitch.

The only way that you would know what James thinks is if his two cents was left here and before any of you try to register here again to make it look like that James is here, just keep this one fact in mind: **I know the real him when you people only know what it is that I have been nice enough to share with you about him.** 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you four and James always!!!  
Holly  
P.S. Oh and if you draw a paycheck anywhere, you get a W-2 paper to have your taxes done. Oh and one more thing. I sleep alone until I am married, so there are some things that I can’t be labeled no matter how hard you try to put them on me.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1336 "2013-03-16T04:04:57Z")

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I liked this example. [Look at those thanks come rolling in.](http://forum.cowboylyrics.com/showthread.php?918-James-Otto-%28My-most-favorite-singer%29) This is probably what this Pit thread ought to look like.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1337 "2013-03-16T04:10:43Z")

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^^^ This chat will **never** look like that because several people here just can’t get enough of me…including you obviously. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly  
P.S. By the way, did you go to the page that I provided a link to?

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**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1338 "2013-03-16T04:14:26Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ This chat will **never** look like that because several people here just can’t get enough of me…including you obviously. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> P.S. By the way, did you go to the page that I provided a link to?

That page you’ve sent has a sock of yours on page 4. :smack:

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1339 "2013-03-16T04:17:46Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> […] This chat[…]

Again? Have you completely ignored the fact that it is, for the zillionth time, not a chat, but a _thread_.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1340 "2013-03-16T04:18:05Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> By the way, did you go to the page that I provided a link to?

Yes, yes. Here’s the relevant quote:

“If he’s got ten fans like you, Holly, he’ll make it!”  
Too bad he’s talking about an early death.

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