# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1401 "2013-03-17T04:02:59Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > More than one person likes James and if you went to the exchanges and chats that have provided links to, you would then see that. If you had the brain god gave turtles, you would see that I didn’t say only one person likes him. I said “You think it’s a success to have one person like one song, and a whole slew of people decide to not even bother because you are so obnoxious?” because you said “\*a \*person still took the time to listen to what I had to share” (emphasis mine). I was responding to you saying “a” person. > [@](#): > > And I don’t care how much I am made fun of. Obviously not everyone in this world does and even if they did, I still wouldn’t give a flying flip. Which isn’t the point. You said “that people most definitely do not have a problem with what I have to say” and I responded by pointing out that people do not make fun of those whose opinions they respect. They think your messages about Mr Otto and your god are ridiculous. > [@](#): > > And me telling about James writing to me online has everything to with why I pointed that out because you were saying that maybe James has learned not to respond to me. Well obviously, I am still getting message from him no matter what you think should not be done. Uh, no, it isn’t “obvious” that you still get messages from him, since we cannot see them and we don’t believe you. > [@](#): > > And I have never once said that what I get from my job is all that I go on. In an earlier message that I left here, I tell about the fact that my mom still get alimony money from my dad. That is your mother’s money. At some point in the beginning of this farce, I or someone else asked you if you were still a dependent and you said no and that you worked at McD’s and paid your own bills. Which is it? > [@](#): > > And what I mean by it not being easy to get others to listen to the kind of music that James sings is the fact that no everyone goes for that kind of music. Far more people go for country music than are ever going to listen to Mr Otto due to your blithering. Bitch. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1402 "2013-03-17T04:19:37Z")
^^^ What you don’t seem to get here, **Curly** , is that those who find me obnoxious do not speak for those who don’t say anything. as for the messages that I get from James, you can see the ones that weren’t privately sent to me. The last one to me from him as of right now went up on January 23rd. I dare you to check his page. And I never once said that I did all of the bill paying on my own. Both my mom and me do it. We keep each other going. And those who go for country music are already in the right place in order to listen to James because if you are going to hear him on any radio station, it will be those that play country music, **Curly**. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > [@Ambivalid](#): > > Now, now Holly, you know what happens when you assume? You make an _ass_ out of _u_ and _me_. If what you said was a compliment about college missing out on my not being there, getting a compliment from anyone here is a new thing for me. God bless you two and James always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1403 "2013-03-17T04:33:59Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > **bobot** good to see you back. Are you gonna follow up on the pizza date with Holly? That was the only juicy part about this thread. Yeah, ahhhh… I got shot down. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1404 "2013-03-17T04:43:04Z")
^^^ Actually if you knew about everything that I have had to deal with concerning several members of my family, you might say that I have done you a favor by shooting you down. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. By the way, you never did answer my question earlier. What is it that makes me worth asking out? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1405 "2013-03-17T05:04:16Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Actually if you knew about everything that I have had to deal with concerning several members of my family, you might say that I have done you a favor by shooting you down. > God bless you always!!! > Holly > P.S. By the way, you never did answer my question earlier. What is it that makes me worth asking out? It’s how you are your own mistress, you are true to yourself. I don’t see it as a selfishness, I see it as a self-preservation. And kudos to you, like Lemmy sez: “So you see, the only proof of what you are is in the way you live the truth…” [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xVFJrOlwdkw/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHeAoAChgKKAgwIABABGHIgVig0MA8=&rs=AOn4CLBC6udfJUVJfzCQAw_YFlsZIfHNSw "Motorhead - Stay Clean") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFJrOlwdkw) ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1406 "2013-03-17T05:23:47Z")
^^^ Thank you! And hey! Stay clean. 😉 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. One thing that I have learned in life is that when you marry a person, you marry their family too and I don’t want you to have to deal with mine, especially when you have been really sweet to me. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1407 "2013-03-17T05:30:15Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > Haven’t you ever heard that it pays to be persistent? You say to-mah-to, I say to-may-to, You say po-tah-to, I say obsessed. Seriously, are there any actual English words longer than two syllables which you have even an inkling of their meaning? > [@](#): > > What do you mean, do I even left? Your mad grammar skilz even infect what you quote! ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1408 "2013-03-17T05:39:58Z")
^^^ You act as if you have never misspelled a word before. By the way the word skills is spelled S-K-I-L-L-S. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1409 "2013-03-17T15:26:50Z")
I think James Otto Satan Hellion is on a mission to turn people off of religion. Seems to be successful too. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1410 "2013-03-17T16:07:41Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > **AU** you wrote a few times that you wanted to see this thread closed. Changed your mind, or addicted like the rest of us? Yes, it is addiction. That is why I want this thread to be locked - so that I am forced to not post in this thread. I don’t really want to post in this idiotic thread, but it is tempting. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1411 "2013-03-17T16:17:12Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > By the way the word skills is spelled S-K-I-L-L-S. Gaudere’s Law: [QUOTE=Gaudere] Any post that attempts to correct another poster’s mistake in grammar, spelling or punctuation will itself contain a mistake in grammar, spelling or punctuation. [/QUOTE] And **Gaudere** is right. There should be a comma after the word “way”. Wait…now my post has an error in grammar, spelling, or punctuation because I just corrected another person’s grammar, spelling, or punctuation. Shoot…:smack: ---
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1412 "2013-03-17T16:53:29Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Thank you! And hey! Stay clean. 😉 🙂 🙂 > God bless you always!!! > Holly > P.S. One thing that I have learned in life is that when you marry a person, you marry their family too and I don’t want you to have to deal with mine, especially when you have been really sweet to me. Good thing your family didn’t have to deal with that. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1413 "2013-03-17T17:26:35Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > What you don’t seem to get here, **Curly** , is that those who find me obnoxious do not speak for those who don’t say anything. I realize that your ego is very healthy and all that, but what makes you think that those who don’t say anything don’t think you are obnoxious too? > [@](#): > > as for the messages that I get from James, you can see the ones that weren’t privately sent to me. The last one to me from him as of right now went up on January 23rd. I dare you to check his page. I don’t need to because the subject was private messages. > [@](#): > > And I never once said that I did all of the bill paying on my own. Both my mom and me do it. We keep each other going. You said you supported yourself on your McDs paycheck. > [@](#): > > And those who go for country music are already in the right place in order to listen to James because if you are going to hear him on any radio station, it will be those that play country music, **Curly**. I’ve been listening to country longer than you’ve been alive and I had never heard of your precious singer until this thread. One needs to have at least a small measure of talent and fame to be playing on the radio. And even more to get played often enough that any given listen is going to actually catch it. Bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1414 "2013-03-17T17:33:24Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I may be wrong in your opinion but that doesn’t mean that I officially am wrong. If you were “officially” wrong, how would you know? You ignore absolutely everyone who tells you when you’re wrong and amplify the significance of anyone agreeing with you in the slightest way. A severe case of confirmation bias does not lend itself to honest self-analysis. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1415 "2013-03-17T17:41:28Z")
> [@April\_R](#): > > I’m actually feeling contractions again today so I am hoping these are just Braxton Hicks. I have an appointment on Monday trying to hold off till then I’ll keep my fingers crossed that everything is ok. My cousin’s wife went through a tricky pregnancy last year, and while everything came out OK in the end (so to speak 🆒) it was definitely nerve wracking. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1416 "2013-03-17T18:06:30Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I realize that your ego is very healthy and all that, but what makes you think that those who don’t say anything don’t think you are obnoxious too? > > I don’t need to because the subject was private messages. > > You said you supported yourself on your McDs paycheck. > > I’ve been listening to country longer than you’ve been alive and I had never heard of your precious singer until this thread. One needs to have at least a small measure of talent and fame to be playing on the radio. And even more to get played often enough that any given listen is going to actually catch it. Just because people don’t respond to what I have to say doesn’t mean that they think that I am obnoxious. They may not have to deal to with those who already have accused me of being such a way and so they do not say a thing. People like **you** scare them away, **Curly**! And I already said that not every message that James has written to me is a private one. 16 of them have gone up on his Twitter page for anyone to see. His last one as of right now went up on January 23rd. I dare you to look for it if you continue to think that I am lying about it, **Curly**. And I never once said that what I get from my job was the only money in my picture, **Curly**. And if you have been listening to country music for as long as you say you have, what got played from James in 2008 in your opinion must not have been worth remembering. Well, at the end of the year, those who matter remembered and not only made his song “I Just Got Started Loving You” the #1 country song of that year, but a Grammy award nomination was given to him for that song the following year, **Curly**! 🙂 🙂 🙂 **Loser in this war against me**. > [@Gyrate](#): > > If you were “officially” wrong, how would you know? You ignore absolutely everyone who tells you when you’re wrong and amplify the significance of anyone agreeing with you in the slightest way. A severe case of confirmation bias does not lend itself to honest self-analysis. Oh well. No matter who thinks that I am wrong, I am still going to stand for who and what it is that I believe in. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you two and James always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1417 "2013-03-17T18:19:22Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > And if you have been listening to country music for as long as you say you have, what got played from James in 2008 in your opinion must not have been worth remembering. Well, at the end of the year, those who matter remembered and not only made his song “I Just Got Started Loving You” the #1 country song of that year, but a Grammy award nomination was given to him for that song the following year, **Curly**! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > **Loser in this war against me**. > > Oh well. No matter who thinks that I am wrong, I am still going to stand for who and what it is that I believe in. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you two and James always!!! > Holly That was way back in 2008. What has he done since that was noteworthy? You’re worse that a Raiders fan. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1418 "2013-03-17T18:21:18Z")
^^^ James was given the CMA and ACM Song of The Year award. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and him always!!! Holly P.S. Last year a song co-written by him went all the way to #2 as well. 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1419 "2013-03-17T18:24:53Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ James was given the CMA and ACM Song of The Year award. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you and him always!!! > Holly > P.S. Last year a song co-written by him went all the way to #2 as well. 🙂 🙂 🙂 The award was in 2008. Try again. And co-writing means it wasn’t only his work. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1420 "2013-03-17T18:34:55Z")
^^^ Those awards, plural, more than one, were given to him in 2009, not 2008 like you think and yes, I know that being a co-writer means that you are not a song’s only writer. Try again yourself. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you and James always!!! Holly P.S. What is James doing now? Writing and working on his next album. 🙂 🙂 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=72)