# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1521 "2013-03-19T00:25:52Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Nothing that you say is going to make me crack.  
> It may be a thread to the rest of y’all, but it is a chat to me since that is what is done in it and as of right now, my giving it another name is not a crime. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

It’s not a completion or a matter of will. It’s a fact. Do what you want, but realize it makes you look like a willful child who needs a nap.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1522 "2013-03-19T00:25:58Z")

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^^^ Oh well. My calling it a chat over a thread doesn’t hurt anyone. You people obviously just need someone to criticize or your days just arren’t complete.

> [@EMCEE\_98](#):
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> Maybe not, but it is quite narcissistic and prideful.

Like I’ve been saying, nothing that you throw at me about anything is going to make me crack…ever. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you two always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1523 "2013-03-19T00:27:46Z")

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Just a question, **James Otto Sweet Heart** : What’s your purpose for posting in this thread? Why don’t you just please let this [everything issue in this thread] go? You have gotten your entertainment and attention for over 30 pages and you’re still not satisfied?

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1524 "2013-03-19T00:29:58Z")

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> [@deltasigma](#):
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> The [spirochaete](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirochaete) of her petty pride  
> is what makes it sweet that she’s on god’s side.

When you talk all microbiological like that, it makes me want to swoon, my rhyming [bdellovibrio](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bdellovibrio)❤

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**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1525 "2013-03-19T00:30:13Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well. My calling it a chat over a thread doesn’t hurt anyone. You people obviously just need someone to criticize or your days just arren’t complete.  
> Like I’ve been saying, nothing that you throw at me about anything is going to make me crack…ever. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

Never admitting that you may be wrong = prideful and narcissistic. Jesus doesn’t cotton to either of these things. :smack:

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1526 "2013-03-19T00:31:09Z")

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^^^ The last time that I checked, standing up for what it is that they believe in and calling a “thread” a chat are **not** wrong things to do.

> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Just a question, **James Otto Sweet Heart** : What’s your purpose for posting in this thread? Why don’t you just please let this [everything issue in this thread] go? You have gotten your entertainment and attention for over 30 pages and you’re still not satisfied?

I don’t go to this chat for entertainment or attention. I go to this chat for self defense because nobody knows me better than me and the Lord.  
God bless you two always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1527 "2013-03-19T00:33:57Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well. My calling it a chat over a thread doesn’t hurt anyone. You people obviously just need someone to criticize or your days just arren’t complete.  
> Like I’ve been saying, nothing that you throw at me about anything is going to make me crack…ever. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

What do you mean by crack? It’s not a character flaw to learn. It’s not an attempt to make someone crack, to teach. Our motto is “fighting ignorance”, because we all have something to learn and we all have omething to teach.

One of my favorite things is learning new stuff, and words in particular. I appreciate it when someone helps me learn something. The more I learn about anything, the richer my life is. If you don’t keep learning you stagnate. It’s a shame to waste human potential.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1528 "2013-03-19T00:34:25Z")

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Sorry, my edit within the brackets was clearly a fail. “Everything issue in this thread”?

I meant, “every issue in this thread”. Sorry to those who care for the inconvenience.

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**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1529 "2013-03-19T00:35:02Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> What do you mean by crack? It’s not a character flaw to learn. It’s not an attempt to make someone crack, to teach. Our motto is “fighting ignorance”, because we all have something to learn and we all have omething to teach.
> 
> One of my favorite things is learning new stuff, and words in particular. I appreciate it when someone helps me learn something. The more I learn about anything, the richer my life is. If you don’t keep learning you stagnate. It’s a shame to waste human potential.

Spot on, Ivory 🙂

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1530 "2013-03-19T00:37:20Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> What do you mean by crack? It’s not a character flaw to learn. It’s not an attempt to make someone crack, to teach. Our motto is “fighting ignorance”, because we all have something to learn and we all have omething to teach.
> 
> One of my favorite things is learning new stuff, and words in particular. I appreciate it when someone helps me learn something. The more I learn about anything, the richer my life is. If you don’t keep learning you stagnate. It’s a shame to waste human potential.

Y’all seem to have no intention to get what it is that I have to say, so why should I give anything that y’all have to say any consideration?  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1531 "2013-03-19T00:39:23Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Y’all seem to have no intention to get what it is that I have to say, so why should I give anything that y’all have to say any consideration?  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

Ok, why should I appreciate what you have to say when you joyfully dismiss anything I say to you? Without even a logical discussion, just a simple dismissal.

It speaks poorly of you.

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**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1532 "2013-03-19T00:40:24Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Y’all seem to have no intention to get what it is that I have to say, so why should I give anything that y’all have to say any consideration?  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

The fact that you take offense to such a well-worded post is unreal. He wasn’t even attacking you. You may as well have chosen the screenname “James Otto Brick Wall.” :dubious:

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1533 "2013-03-19T00:41:09Z")

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^^^ Well y’all taking offense to what my beliefs are makes y’all just as bad if not worse.

> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Ok, why should I appreciate what you have to say when you joyfully dismiss anything I say to you? Without even a logical discussion, just a simple dismissal.
> 
> It speaks poorly of you.

Well then that goes triple for you. If you are not going to consider anything that I have to say here, don’t expect me to consider anything that y’all have to say.  
God bless you two always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1534 "2013-03-19T00:41:47Z")

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> [@EMCEE\_98](#):
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> The fact that you take offense to such a well-worded post is unreal. He wasn’t even attacking you. You may as well have chosen the screenname “James Otto Brick Wall.” :dubious:

Yup. (And I’m a she, just for completeness sake. No worries!). Thanks for the kind words.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1535 "2013-03-19T00:42:56Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> When you talk all microbiological like that, it makes me want to swoon, my rhyming [bdellovibrio](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bdellovibrio)❤

May this lowly [phage](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteriophage) be worthy of such praise - always ∞. 🙂

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1536 "2013-03-19T00:51:37Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> If you are not going to consider anything that I have to say here, don’t expect me to consider anything that y’all have to say.  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

I believe this is another case of “do unto others before those bastards get a chance to do unto you.”

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1537 "2013-03-19T00:54:10Z")

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^^^ Oh well. Y’all made the first move by jumping all over me for the beliefs that I have that y’all just can’t take.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1538 "2013-03-19T00:54:37Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I believe this is another case of “do unto others before those bastards get a chance to do unto you.”

Did you mean to say doodoo unto other?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1539 "2013-03-19T00:57:24Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well. Y’all made the first move by jumping all over me for the beliefs that I have that y’all just can’t take.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

We can take it that you _believe_ it.

We find it offensive that you chose to _say_ it when you did.

Do you not see the distinction?

When you didn’t _care_ that you hurt actual people’s feelings you showed us your character and the game played on.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1540 "2013-03-19T00:57:40Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ Oh well. Y’all made the first move by jumping all over me for the beliefs that I have that y’all just can’t take.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

You started it by shitting on a memorial thread.

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