# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1601 "2013-03-19T03:07:55Z")

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Now I have “Jimmy Crack Corn” running through my head.

But people now have an inkling what it was like growing up in West Texas. Not only did the same ignorance that is inherent in James Otto Satan Hellion prevail, but the same extreme pride in their ignorance.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1602 "2013-03-19T03:08:04Z")

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> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#):
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> If we were only interested in victimizing everyone who shared their beliefs here, the Pit would be the only forum on the Dope. No, what you said was wrong and in fact (1500+ post thread) it walked over many others’ feelings re: suicide. It was a bad thing to do, just bad. How can you not see that? Once you post your words, you cannot control their results. Again, how are you missing this?
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> You weren’t placed on this world to be walked over, but neither should you use your circumstances to justify victimizing others by “keeping it real”. Not to get too hysterical, but you did in some way victimize others with your words. You fucked up, we all do. Why can’t you accept this and move on?

**I don’t victimize anyone when I share what it is that I believe. You people turn yourself into the victim when you choose to feel offended by anything that anyone has to say and I don’t believe that it is my fault that your skin is not as thick as mine either.**  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1603 "2013-03-19T03:13:48Z")

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You cannot control the results of your words once they’re posted. It’s up to the reader whether you have walked over their feelings.

Jesus, when was the last time you read a book without pop-up pictures in it?

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1604 "2013-03-19T03:15:15Z")

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^^^ I know that I can not control how a person feels about me. No one can control the feelings of other people.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1605 "2013-03-19T03:16:15Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Now I have “Jimmy Crack Corn” running through my head.
> 
> But people now have an inkling what it was like growing up in West Texas. Not only did the same ignorance that is inherent in James Otto Satan Hellion prevail, but the same extreme pride in their ignorance.

It’s really quite a frightening thing, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1606 "2013-03-19T03:18:12Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> But of course, my [pseudomonad](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomonadales) of passion ♦

Alas, I am just an ancient archaea that can but dream of swimming in the hot spring of your **[[COLOR=Purple]ἔρως](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros_%28concept%29)**[/COLOR].

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1607 "2013-03-19T03:18:48Z")

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“it’s taking longer than we thought.”

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1608 "2013-03-19T03:20:16Z")

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^^^ This chat only continues because you people don’t get that I crack for no one.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1609 "2013-03-19T03:21:08Z")

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Proverbs 12:1 Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1610 "2013-03-19T03:22:29Z")

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^^^ I crack for no one no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1611 "2013-03-19T03:24:33Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I know that I can not control how a person feels about me. No one can control the feelings of other people.  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

So, we’re in agreement, yes? It’s not up to the poster to say whether he/she is walking over another’s feelings? If so, doesn’t it make sense to consider the audience’s feelings/possible reaction BEFORE posting?

Pleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyes.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1612 "2013-03-19T03:24:44Z")

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Time to bring out the comfy chair. Or poke her with soft cushions.

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**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1613 "2013-03-19T03:26:12Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Time to bring out the comfy chair. Or poke her with soft cushions.

Maybe she won’t expect that?

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1614 "2013-03-19T03:27:46Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Time to bring out the comfy chair. Or poke her with soft cushions.

I crack for no one no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂

> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#):
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> So, we’re in agreement, yes? It’s not up to the poster to say whether he/she is walking over another’s feelings? If so, doesn’t it make sense to consider the audience’s feelings/possible reaction BEFORE posting?
> 
> Pleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyes.

I will continue to stand up for what it is that I believe in no matter what is thrown at me and no matter how alone I may find myself to be on having them beliefs. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you two always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1615 "2013-03-19T03:30:37Z")

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Biggles, do you have all of the stuffing at one end?

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1616 "2013-03-19T03:33:48Z")

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> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#):
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> So, we’re in agreement, yes? It’s not up to the poster to say whether he/she is walking over another’s feelings? If so, doesn’t it make sense to consider the audience’s feelings/possible reaction BEFORE posting?
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> Pleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyespleasesayyes.

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I will continue to stand up for what it is that I believe in no matter what is thrown at me and no matter how alone I may find myself to be on having them beliefs. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
> God bless you two always!!!  
> Holly

AHAHAHAHAHA . . . help. . . . me . . . can’t . . . . breathe . . .

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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1617 "2013-03-19T03:54:31Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I believe that the Lord doesn’t forgive people until they ask him to and so I don’t forgive people until they ask me to.

\*“Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.”

Luke 23:34\*

Wow.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1618 "2013-03-19T04:01:31Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I believe that the Lord doesn’t forgive people until they ask him to and so I don’t forgive people until they ask me to.

> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#):
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> \*“Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.”
> 
> Luke 23:34\*
> 
> Wow.

Forgive her Father, for she knows not what she’s talking about.

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**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1619 "2013-03-19T04:07:17Z")

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Y’know this thread has been good for me in the sense that it’s made me dust off my old Bible knowledge, weak as it is. There’s a lot of good stuff in there. Too bad it was the people I couldn’t stand. Kinda threw the baby out with the bath water, but whaddya gonna do?

How sad that she’s getting remedial/initial religious training from a hostile message board. What do they do at her church between opening prayer and coffee?

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1620 "2013-03-19T04:11:25Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Just because people don’t respond to what I have to say doesn’t mean that they think that I am obnoxious. They may not have to deal to with those who already have accused me of being such a way and so they do not say a thing. People like **you** scare them away, **Curly**!

Well, I certainly hope so since we don’t need any more like you. However, don’t think I didn’t notice how you danced away from what I said - you cannot assume that people who don’t respond to your posts do not think you are obnoxious.

> [@](#):
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> And I already said that not every message that James has written to me is a private one. 16 of them have gone up on his Twitter page for anyone to see. His last one as of right now went up on January 23rd. I dare you to look for it if you continue to think that I am lying about it, **Curly**.

And, again trying to dance away from what I said, which was the subject of whether or not Mr Otto responds to your private messages. So there is zero reason for me to go to Twitter to look at public ones.

> [@](#):
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> And I never once said that what I get from my job was the only money in my picture, **Curly**.

No, but you’ve certainly done your best to imply it, which is a form of lying. Check out your post #708. If I have time and I feel like it, I’ll find more but right now I’m just taking a quick break in a McD’s in Holbrook, AZ.

> [@](#):
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> And if you have been listening to country music for as long as you say you have, what got played from James in 2008 in your opinion must not have been worth remembering. Well, at the end of the year, those who matter remembered and not only made his song “I Just Got Started Loving You” the #1 country song of that year, but a Grammy award nomination was given to him for that song the following year, **Curly**!

Obviously it wasn’t worth remembering, tho looking at other posts here I have to ask - are you talking about a song he sang or wrote?

> [@](#):
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> I just have two questions for y’all who continue to write to me here. How much longer are you people going to think that y’all can get through to me? Has anything that you have done so far worked at all any?

So, what? You are proud of your ignorance?

Bitch

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