# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 82
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1621 "2013-03-19T04:19:36Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > What is it exactly that y’all lose by me calling it a chat in stead of a thread like the rest of you people? Nothing. What do you lose by refusing to use words the way they should be? Respect from anyone over age 5. > [@](#): > > Oh well. Y’all made the first move by jumping all over me for the beliefs that I have that y’all just can’t take. Nobody attacks you for your beliefs, they attack you because you shit all over a memorial thread for no good reason, other than you didn’t particularly like Mindy. [QUOTE=] You people started it by not ignoring what it is that I had a right to say [/QUOTE] Actually, technically, no - you did not have the right to threadshit like that. And people are not going to ignore that kind of horrible, unfeeling behavior. That fact that you are too damn dumb to understand any of that doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Bitch ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1622 "2013-03-19T04:26:12Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > If you automatically forgive a person, they will only continue to do the bad that they are guilty of because they will then think that it is okay to do it. **No shit sherlock!** Look at what you wrote there bonehead, then think about how you keep saying that anyone who doesn’t like what you post should just ignore you. Do you see how that means we are supposed to just like you continue to do the bad? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1623 "2013-03-19T04:27:00Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I believe that the Lord doesn’t forgive people until they ask him to I guess this is spitting into the wind, but here goes anyway. Where did you pull that malarkey from? It’s certainly not in Scripture. > [@](#): > > and so I don’t forgive people until they ask me to. Take Ugly Ripe Tomato for example. They apologized in this chat earlier and so I forgave them. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > God bless you and them always!!! > Holly You must have an interesting (read that as: absolutely no clue what the words actually mean) way of reading the Lord’s Prayer. That’s the inverse of that prayer. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1624 "2013-03-19T04:33:16Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > and no **I am not walking all over anyone when I share my beliefs.** Yes, you are. I find it offensive that you have to blather on about your god in damn near every post, and then demand that I accept his “blessing”. You are not sharing your beliefs, you are throwing them at us. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Now I have “Jimmy Crack Corn” running through my head. > > But people now have an inkling what it was like growing up in West Texas. Not only did the same ignorance that is inherent in James Otto Satan Hellion prevail, but the same extreme pride in their ignorance. I just drove thru there - some of the billboards were, uh, amazing… And now, I must drive. I’d like to make it to Kingman before stopping for the night. ---
**Author:** ![EMCEE\_98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@EMCEE\_98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EMCEE_98)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1625 "2013-03-19T04:57:25Z")
> [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](#): > > Biggles, do you have all of the stuffing at one end? Now…You will stay in the comfy chair until lunchtime, with only a cup of coffee at eleven! ---
**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1626 "2013-03-19T05:16:10Z")
So Holly, where do you get these non-Biblical concepts about forgiveness, Grace and humility? What do you have to say for yourself now that it’s clear that several of your beliefs are directly opposed, and I mean exactly 180 degrees out from New Testament scripture? These aren’t our words that contradict yours, they’re from the Bible. Do you attend Bible study? How often do you chat with your pastor? Is it a lay clergy? Where do you get these fascinating ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1627 "2013-03-19T06:01:45Z")
There’s nothing in the Bible about snake throwing either. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1628 "2013-03-19T06:39:48Z")
Actually, isn’t there something in Acts about Paul shaking off a serpent that bit him? But who am I to question science? ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1629 "2013-03-19T09:43:56Z")
**I crack for no one no matter what y’all throw at me.** God bless you always!!! Holly **That especially goes for you, Curly.** 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1630 "2013-03-19T10:34:39Z")
Holly… I think for some bizarre reason I’m going through a straight phase. I blame you and all your damn god bless you always!! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1631 "2013-03-19T10:37:22Z")
So to sum up: JOSH is willing to be nasty and hurtful under the guise of being “honest”. She thinks everything is about her and what she wants. She is proud of her ignorance, disregard for others and lack of consideration for the basic rules of polite social intercourse, and considers any attempts to point out why these are bad things as trying to “make her crack”. She will select the tiniest fragments of messages that she feels support her even when the rest of those messages, and all the messages around her, convey a far different message. She claims she is proven right because God hasn’t personally told her that she’s doing wrong, and doesn’t seem to think that this (not to put too fine a point on it) is a literally insane view to seriously hold. And that’s not even getting into the questionable Scriptural interpretations. At this point I’m kind of hoping she’s a troll, because otherwise she’s a sociopath of the sort who one day will cheerfully poison the punch at the high school dance because she wants to and anyway God didn’t tell her not to. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1632 "2013-03-19T10:54:33Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t believe that is how the Lord does things and if he doesn’t do things that way, why should I or anyone else? I don’t know - perhaps because he specifically orders you to do just that in the Bible? But what does God know? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1633 "2013-03-19T11:17:33Z")
I had a fitful sleep last night, with this nagging question that I just couldn’t drive from my head, and I hope you guys can help me out. You see, I was wondering, do you think **James Otto Sweet Heart** cracks for any one? I mean, sure, maybe for someone who is \*not \*under the lord, that’s granted, but golly … it’s just one of those conundrums, you know? ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1634 "2013-03-19T11:52:31Z")
As far as mental acuity, it appears to me she was “cracked” a long time ago. She is just another vengeful dingbat hiding behind religious dogma. Sadly, the world is full of them. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1635 "2013-03-19T11:52:43Z")
JOSH is a **cracktivist**. This is a new and special form of activism. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1636 "2013-03-19T12:53:58Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I believe that the Lord doesn’t forgive people until they ask him to and so I don’t forgive people until they ask me to. Take Ugly Ripe Tomato for example. They apologized in this chat earlier and so I forgave them. I’m a her, not a them. There’s only one of me, for which I am sure many people are grateful 🆒 Any comment on the rest of that post? I’m honestly trying to help you see why you’ve gotten the sort of reception you have here. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1637 "2013-03-19T13:03:53Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > Alas, I am just an ancient archaea that can but dream of swimming in the hot spring of your **[[COLOR=Purple]ἔρως](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros_%28concept%29)**[/COLOR]. Oooh… you can swim in my hot spring any time, my Helenic heliobacter. This is officially the most surreal thread I’ve ever posted in at the SDMB 😃 ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1638 "2013-03-19T13:14:21Z")
Holly, you have the manners of a goat. We aren’t asking you not to share your views, but there is a time and a place. That you don’t get that is not on all of us. But just stay stubborn and prideful. We’ll eventually tire of you and then you’ll just be lonely. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1639 "2013-03-19T14:34:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > At this point I’m kind of hoping she’s a troll, because otherwise she’s a sociopath of the sort who one day will cheerfully poison the punch at the high school dance because she wants to and anyway God didn’t tell her not to. I used to figure that James Otto Snakethrower Hellion, that sultry lass with fire in her eyes, was a troll. But apparently the many other websites she devotes her time to really do indicate “crackpot.” ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1640 "2013-03-19T14:48:12Z")
\*\*I crack for no one underneath the Lord no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\* God bless you always!!! Holly [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=81) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=83)