# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1661 "2013-03-19T17:34:05Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> It’s become the dWW! :eek:
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> Which is still not as scary as this quick bread my manager tried to make out of the pulp from her juicing machine. Nothing like ground-up kiwi seeds in a piece of bread. Untoasted quick bread should not crunch! Plus it was really gummy and didn’t taste like much.

Oh, I’m so sorry you had to eat that. Seriously? Ground up kiwi seeds? Compost pile it, if you must.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1662 "2013-03-19T17:42:04Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> \*\*I crack for no one underneath the Lord no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\*  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

Yes, yes, spaz, we know.

So is that a “no”, then, as to whether or not you’ve ever had an orgasm? You asked me why I was curious when I first posed the question to you, and then when I answered, you just ignored me…

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1663 "2013-03-19T17:48:02Z")

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And apple skins and seeds, and orange skins, seeds, and bitter pith. I ate one bite of the stuff and the rest got wrapped up in a napkin and discreetly stuck in the wastebasket. I understand “waste not, want not” but there’s limits for Pete’s sake.

At least her juicing obsession is better than her repeated attempts at no-carb diets, which made her miserable, aggravated her gallbladder problems, and flat-out didn’t make her lose weight.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1664 "2013-03-19T17:51:29Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Yes, yes, spaz, we know.
> 
> So is that a “no”, then, as to whether or not you’ve ever had an orgasm? You asked me why I was curious when I first posed the question to you, and then when I answered, you just ignored me…

Shhhh… we’re talking recipes and weird managers now. Care to join in pleasant conversation? You’d be welcome! 😃

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1665 "2013-03-19T17:56:47Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Yes, yes, spaz, we know.
> 
> So is that a “no”, then, as to whether or not you’ve ever had an orgasm? You asked me why I was curious when I first posed the question to you, and then when I answered, you just ignored me…

\*\*I crack for no one underneath the Lord no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\*  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1666 "2013-03-19T18:02:26Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> I ate one bite of the stuff and the rest got wrapped up in a napkin and discreetly stuck in the wastebasket.

So you didn’t spit it back in her face and tell her it was terrible? Huh.

Anyway - I have thought about trying juicing. It seems like an easy way to get more fruits and veggies. I promise I won’t make bread out of the gunk left over though 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1667 "2013-03-19T18:04:06Z")

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For the record, I really don’t want to know whether you’ve had an orgasm or not.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1668 "2013-03-19T18:08:19Z")

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^^^ That is okay. I wasn’t the person who brought up the subject anyways. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1669 "2013-03-19T18:43:59Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> So you didn’t spit it back in her face and tell her it was terrible? Huh.
> 
> Anyway - I have thought about trying juicing. It seems like an easy way to get more fruits and veggies. I promise I won’t make bread out of the gunk left over though 🙂

My mother raised me to always find something to compliment, so I told her it was nice and moist and hoped she wouldn’t pass the rest of the loaf off on me because I liked it so much.

She gave me some juice to try and it was really good, I think it was pineapple, apple, orange, and pear. Very fresh, none of that flat flavor that bottled juice has, and lots of pulp which I like. And thank you for not making gunk bread out of the leftovers 😃

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1670 "2013-03-19T18:44:34Z")

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@JOSH: It so happens that I am above the Lord. Will you please crack for me?

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**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1671 "2013-03-19T18:45:48Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> So you didn’t spit it back in her face and tell her it was terrible? Huh.
> 
> Anyway - I have thought about trying juicing. It seems like an easy way to get more fruits and veggies. I promise I won’t make bread out of the gunk left over though 🙂

But couldn’t you make a fruitcake out of the gunk left over?

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1672 "2013-03-19T19:00:02Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> @JOSH: It so happens that I am above the Lord. Will you please crack for me?

No one is above the Lord…not even you. 🙂 🙂 🙂  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1673 "2013-03-19T19:01:32Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> As the OP of this thread, I’m once more asking for the saner members of this board (read: anyone but the pittee) to let this one go. Listen, guys, there’s only one important thing to take away from all this (besides the comprehensive list that **Gyrate** was kind enough to supply)…
> 
> Since her goal is to SERVE THE LORD above all else!!!, once you note that she completely disregards her own holy book’s guidelines on how to behave (“I won’t forgive anyone unless they forgive me first!?” – What. The. Hell??), then there’s nothing else to accomplish here. If even God can’t penetrate that thick skull, the one she gives the ultimate authority in her life, there’s no way in hell that Teh Evul Dopers would stand a chance.
> 
> So, please, please, pretty please, instead of another thirty pages of “I know I am, but what are you!?”, can we let her idiocy only be contained to a post here or there that’s easily ignored? Versus giving her attention and that inane ability to believe that somehow, if you squench your face up right, that a particular jab out of 2,000 posts is a compliment and therefore we all support her actions.
> 
> Just let it die and know that the better men _always_ walk away first. My .02¢.

I will +1 **faithfool**. It’s about time this thread dies. It did at one point, but then **Drunky Smurf** decided to revive it.

Really, I would like to thank those Dopers who exhibited their near-infinite patience in this thread: **Monty** , **IvoryTowerDenizen** , and anyone else who has been calmly and civilly replying to **James Otto Sweet Heart** with minimized use of personal insults (I am pretty sure they are others). It really shows how willing some Dopers are to help other posters and offer great advice without losing their patience easily.

Unfortunately, as **James Otto Sweet Heart** said, nothing is going to make her “crack”. So I think it would be best if she is left alone. By further replying to her, you are only feeding what she craves: attention.

And **faithfool** , since you are the OP of this thread, if this thread doesn’t die in the near future, you may want to consider asking a moderator to close this down.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1674 "2013-03-19T19:06:30Z")

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^^^ I don’t remember asking that a chat about me get started anywhere on this forum. You people did that on your own. The only thing that I am guilty of is defending myself from everything that y’all decided to throw at me…if self defense is even something to be guilty of anyways.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1675 "2013-03-19T19:06:41Z")

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> [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](#):
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> But couldn’t you make a fruitcake out of the gunk left over?

It would probably be just as bad as the quick bread. Besides the ucky texture from the seeds and rinds left over, most of the fruity goodness goes into the juice so the pulp doesn’t have much flavor.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1676 "2013-03-19T19:08:30Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Shhhh… we’re talking recipes and weird managers now. Care to join in pleasant conversation? You’d be welcome! 😃

Oh, sorry. 😃

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1677 "2013-03-19T19:12:20Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> My mother raised me to always find something to compliment, so I told her it was nice and moist and hoped she wouldn’t pass the rest of the loaf off on me because I liked it so much.
> 
> She gave me some juice to try and it was really good, I think it was pineapple, apple, orange, and pear. Very fresh, none of that flat flavor that bottled juice has, and lots of pulp which I like. And thank you for not making gunk bread out of the leftovers 😃

That’s very nice of you. Your mamma raised you right. 🙂

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Oh, sorry. 😃

That’s ok! Any recipes to share?

> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> And **faithfool** , since you are the OP of this thread, if this thread doesn’t die in the near future, you may want to consider asking a moderator to close this down.

Aw, c’mon, don’t you have a good ramen noodle recipe to share? That’s what my teenaged kids like. We sometimes make a peanut/asian sauce to go over them.

ANd thank you for your kind words. That’s nice of you!

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1678 "2013-03-19T21:26:29Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> This is officially the most surreal thread I’ve ever posted in at the SDMB 😃

I sincerely hope not. 🙂 🆒 🙂 🆒

> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> And **faithfool** , since you are the OP of this thread, if this thread doesn’t die in the near future, you may want to consider asking a moderator to close this down.

Oh come on. We’ve almost got her to the point of a being a quivering mass of jello, sitting in the corner repeating the same thing over and over.

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> \*\*I crack for no one underneath the Lord no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\*  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> \*\*I crack for no one underneath the Lord no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\*  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> \*\*I crack for no one underneath the Lord no matter what is thrown at me. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\*  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> **I crack for no one no matter what y’all throw at me.**  
> God bless you always!!!  
> Holly  
> **That especially goes for you, Curly.** 🙂 🙂 🙂

You measure victory your way, I’ll measure it mine. Bwahahaha!

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1679 "2013-03-19T21:39:47Z")

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\*\*^^^ Y’all started this chat a whole month ago…with the intention of getting a certain something out of me. Here we are a month later…have you gotten what it is that y’all intended to get out of me? Nope.  
God bless you always!!!  
Holly  
P.S. And because y’all will never get what it is that y’all want out of me…it looks like that I win. 🙂 🙂 🙂 \*\*

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1680 "2013-03-19T21:43:41Z")

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Oh please. Different colors, unnecessary underlining/bolding, and calling **curlcoat** , **curly** now? [SIGH]

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