# James Otto Sweet Heart and Damning Suicides to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764 "2013-02-19T03:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1961 "2013-03-28T04:19:30Z")
^^^ When did 5 foot and 6 inches become over grown? Oh and if my appearance doesn’t “float your boat”, such a burden won’t be on my head. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. Oh and another thing that I don’t go for are any alcoholic beverages, especially after one of my cousins was left for dead by the drunk driver who ran over him!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: P.S.S. So where can we see a shot of **your** face? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1962 "2013-03-28T04:20:02Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > You had me at low-hop. Yeah, most Belgian beers (and there are a myriad styles in Belgium) tend to play down the hops–even using stale hops in some cases–and play up the malt, yeast, and fruity flavors (not always due to the addition of actual fruit–a lot of the fruity characteristic comes from the yeasts used, which can give off flavors like banana, clove, raisin, plums, etc.) Belgian beers don’t follow any sort of “beer purity law,” so you might find ingredients like coriander seed and Curacao orange peels (as in the case of witbier) in it, or candi sugar, honey, fruits of all kinds, that sort of thing. Plus wild fermentation is also popular with certain styles (like lambics and Flemish sours), so you also get beers with a bit of funk and sourness to them. They’re basically the sourdoughs of beers. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1963 "2013-03-28T04:29:41Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > P.S. Oh and another thing that I don’t go for are any alcoholic beverages, especially after one of my cousins was left for dead by the drunk driver who ran over him!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Yeah, but your mom sure went for alcoholic beverages in a big way. I don’t know how else to explain why your face looks like a character in the movie _Freaks_. You look like one of the pinheads, only fatter and more retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1964 "2013-03-28T04:43:49Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > P.S.S. So where can we see a shot of **your** face? Wait; am I seeing a courtship unfold here?? 🙂 Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1965 "2013-03-28T07:52:10Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > Yeah, but your mom sure went for alcoholic beverages in a big way. I don’t know how else to explain why your face looks like a character in the movie _Freaks_. > > You look like one of the pinheads, only fatter and more retarded. My mom does do alcoholic beverages either and she is not the one that I look like…at least to me anyways. And before you go calling anyone retarded, I have a cousin who **really** is. God bless you and her and my mom always!!! Holly P.S. My cousin lives in a special facility because of her mentality and will be 44 at the end of the month. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1966 "2013-03-28T07:59:59Z")
^^^ My message should be saying there that my mom does **not** do any alcoholic beverages. Actually she has never been into that kind of stuff. She has never smoked or done drugs either except for the ones that she has to take for her illness. God bless you and her always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1967 "2013-03-28T08:07:06Z")
Oh, Chimay is lovely but do check the alcohol content - the red, ‘triple’ and blue versions roll in at 7%, 8% and 9% respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1968 "2013-03-28T11:51:20Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I think butter, in general, just makes everything taste nicer. No argument there, in general of cos. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1969 "2013-03-28T12:40:07Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Oh, Chimay is lovely but do check the alcohol content - the red, ‘triple’ and blue versions roll in at 7%, 8% and 9% respectively. True, but it’s nice being able to polish off 750ml of 9% alcohol ale and tell my wife that I only had one beer. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1970 "2013-03-28T12:45:23Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Sweet. I’ve been wanting to make this since you first mentioned it but I’ve never even heard of Chimay much less seen it in the liquor store. Every time you describe it, I just get hungrier. You’re in for a treat, one of life’s special pleasures. Some Trappist beers filter the sediment, some don’t, so you might want to pour slow at the end so as not to get any in your glass. It doesn’t bother me but my wife’s scared it’s gonna put hair on her chest. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1971 "2013-03-28T12:47:53Z")
Quite the path this thread has become. From the inane rants of a vengeful dingbat, to cookie recipes, and now fine Belgium beers. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1972 "2013-03-28T13:02:07Z")
^^^ Would you rather me be something **worse** than a ding bat, **Drummy**? God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1973 "2013-03-28T13:35:04Z")
I want a kasteel rouge really badly now and I’m stuck at work until 4:30 ☹ ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1974 "2013-03-28T13:53:18Z")
Speaking of dingbats, you know what I only recently learned? Did you know that _Ray Gun_ music magazine, printed up an interview with Brian Ferry [completely set in Zapf Dingbats](http://typegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/raygun1994.jpg), back in 1994, apparently because the interview was dull as hell. They were always known for their very stylistic and aggressive, experimental graphic design, but that takes the cake. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1975 "2013-03-28T16:55:17Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Did you know that _Ray Gun_ music magazine, printed up an interview with Brian Ferry [completely set in Zapf Dingbats](http://typegeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/raygun1994.jpg), back in 1994, apparently because the interview was dull as hell. Ferry’s not the guy to go to for spicy interview fodder. The New Yorker recently did a Talk of the Town piece on him visiting a NYC hotel where they have a 1920s-style [del]death ray[/del] jazz orchestra, and his comments basically amounted to “Isn’t this music great? What fun.” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1976 "2013-03-28T20:24:05Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Ferry’s not the guy to go to for spicy interview fodder. The New Yorker recently did a Talk of the Town piece on him visiting a NYC hotel where they have a 1920s-style [del]death ray[/del] jazz orchestra, and his comments basically amounted to “Isn’t this music great? What fun.” I’m still wondering what the whole story was. I’m trying to imagine the production team sitting back there, with an instruction to set an entire magazine piece in Zapf Dingbats thinking WTF. Or maybe it really was their idea in the first place? Or was it a dare? There’s gotta be a good story there somewhere, from interview to print, of the wacky train of thought that led to an actual interview being printed in a font almost nobody could decode. Did this come up in an editorial meeting? Was it a spontaneous decision by an editor? Inquiring minds want to know! ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1977 "2013-03-29T04:05:22Z")
I tried a Rochefort and a Chimay with a red label. Holy shitsnacks, these are the kinds of beers I’ve been wanting all my life. The flavor is sweet and strong but lighter than most of the beers I’ve liked up to this point and I love the carbonation. I probably won’t get them every week but they’re definitely going into rotation. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1978 "2013-03-29T12:31:33Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I tried a Rochefort and a Chimay with a red label. Holy shitsnacks, these are the kinds of beers I’ve been wanting all my life. The flavor is sweet and strong but lighter than most of the beers I’ve liked up to this point and I love the carbonation. I probably won’t get them every week but they’re definitely going into rotation. Yeah, it’s certainly not an every-day quaffer. I mean, I suppose it _can_ be for some, but it’s a bit too much for me usually. Yeah, if you like that, continue trying the various Belgian styles. There is quite a range to explore. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1979 "2013-03-29T15:46:07Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t get online or on a computer at all while I am on the clock, and for the record I am home now. I also don’t steal. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > What made that year so bad is the fact that them losses were the only things that happened. My mom was also in three car accidents in just that year alone, on January 9th, May 25th, and the day before Christmas Eve. She was hit by another car all three times, but what stands out about all three of them is that my mom did not get hurt even once and to me it is all because of the Lord. 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > God bless you two and her always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly > > P.S. May her green 2007 Ford Focus rest in peace. Technically, you should be thanking the Ford engineering department and whoever invented the crumple zone technology for diverting the energy of the crash around the vehicle, instead of transmitting it into the passenger cell Thank the engineers and techs that designed a safe car, not some non-existent invisible All-Father in the sky, what saved your Mom was NOT god, it WAS the practical uses of Physics ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764/1980 "2013-03-29T21:32:42Z")
^^^ Oh well that is your belief, but it isn’t mine. God bless you always!!! Holly P.S. That Ford Focus was not involved in accident #3. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/james-otto-sweet-heart-and-damning-suicides-to-hell/650764.md?page=100)