# JamieMcGarry - Wheel yourself on down here

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050 "2011-08-25T16:11:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/221 "2011-08-26T19:47:29Z")

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Can you be done for drink driving in control of a wheelchair?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/222 "2011-08-26T19:49:49Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Can you be done for drink driving in control of a wheelchair?

I’m sure you’d catch some kind of case.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/223 "2011-08-26T19:52:57Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Can you be done for drink driving in control of a wheelchair?

Drink driving? Wouldn’t the Pepsi/Aquafina delivery van driver be in trouble if that was against the law?

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/224 "2011-08-26T19:57:51Z")

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Perhaps this news item will give Jamie some hope for pursuing the jerks who break the law.

Unless…Jamie, this wasn’t you, was it? [Link.](http://shelton.patch.com/articles/man-calls-police-on-himself-gets-tasered-arrested)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/225 "2011-08-26T19:59:59Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> _Late_ 20s!

Me too. Late, as in “passed away a long time ago.”

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/226 "2011-08-26T20:01:03Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I think that is definitely true. He would get his ass kicked on a daily basis if he were able-bodied.

Have you seen his guns? He’s a competitive body builder. And like many is a capital “A” ass. Something about swelled muscles, swelled egos and swelled sense of importance going hand in hand.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/227 "2011-08-26T20:02:31Z")

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> [@Hbns](#):
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> Have you seen his guns? He’s a competitive body builder. And like many is a capital “A” ass. Something about swelled muscles, swelled egos and swelled sense of importance going hand in hand.

I haven’t. I’m curious what he looks like.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/228 "2011-08-26T20:06:30Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Unless…Jamie, this wasn’t you, was it? [Link.](http://shelton.patch.com/articles/man-calls-police-on-himself-gets-tasered-arrested)

Is he doing De Niro?

“They whacked him. They fuckin’ _whacked him_!” _\<sobs\>_

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/229 "2011-08-26T20:08:52Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I get that **jamie** wants to be an advocate for disabled rights, and that’s both an admirable and very necessary role. The problem is, he’s _fucking awful at it._ I’m fully, 100% on board with equal access for disabled people, and I have, at least, an academic understanding of the sort of prejudice and condescension disable people are often subjected to. But whenever I read one of his threads, I end up wanting to go out, find someone in a wheelchair, and kick them down a flight of stairs.
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> This is not, I think, the sort of reaction that helps his cause.

Please don’t kick me down the stairs:eek:! Other than that, I agree. Jamie is certainly not promoting respect for the disabled. There’s a difference between advocating for the disabled and going so far to the extreme as to encourage people to say “there goes another jerk in a wheelchair” whenever they someone in one.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/230 "2011-08-26T20:19:56Z")

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Can the wheelchair dude from Ghost World also guest star on _Curb Your Wheelchair_?

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/231 "2011-08-26T20:28:15Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Drink driving? Wouldn’t the Pepsi/Aquafina delivery van driver be in trouble if that was against the law?

Its how we say it over here. Stop repressing me.

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**Author:** ![My\_Freakin\_Back\_Is\_Killing\_Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@My\_Freakin\_Back\_Is\_Killing\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Freakin_Back_Is_Killing_Me)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/232 "2011-08-26T20:51:49Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Can you be done for drink driving in control of a wheelchair?

I found a link which may answer your question and simultaneously reveal **JamieMcGarry’s** real identity:

(Blog Link) [http://www.disaboomlive.com/Blogs/tiffiny/archive/2009/03/31/yes-you-can-get-a-dui-in-your-wheelchair.aspx](http://www.disaboomlive.com/Blogs/tiffiny/archive/2009/03/31/yes-you-can-get-a-dui-in-your-wheelchair.aspx)

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/233 "2011-08-26T21:02:41Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> As I already said, IANADorL and we can only go by what Jamie has told us, but I got it from here:

You’re right, he does state that it was malpractice. He claims that the doctor deliberately rejected the use of available technology, “He didn’t use the equipment, suffering from what I call the “God Complex”.”

Perhaps this is so. If there was a trial, and if a jury came to that conclusion, then yes, the doctor clearly should be blamed. And I am quite prepared to accept that possibility.

But another possibility is that circumstances in the OR were such as to either prevent use of this equipment, or to cause the surgical team to decide that its use would interfere with other, necessary, life saving efforts, or for some other reason was contraindicated.

If you have a hose with a leak in it, nothing is getting to the end of the hose because it’s all flowing out the leak. Putting on a clamp prevents loosing all that fluid, and really has no effect on the downstream end, which wasn’t receiving any fluid anyway.

And if perhaps there is another leak further downstream, putting an artificial pump on after the clamp just means that the fluid will all leak out at another location, and the far end of the hose still won’t get anything.

IANADoctor but I deal with trauma in wild animals every day. We make our best efforts and use all our professional skills, but sometimes the choices available are bad and worse, or horrible versus unknown. Given the nature of this surgery, and given that skilled surgical teams experience a high level of complications even when their best efforts are employed, I’m inclined to discount the statements of the person who cannot possibly be impartial.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/234 "2011-08-26T21:13:48Z")

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Well, Jamie, if you didn’t know it before, anything you say on the Dope can and will be used against you (and likely in a very exaggerated way). As much as I agree with the douchiness of your behavior in previous threads, etc., I think it’s shitty for people to jump all over the whole alcohol/medical malpractice thing. That tendency to get a piece of info and go crazy with assumptions is one of the uglier things that happens here in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/235 "2011-08-26T21:22:14Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I haven’t. I’m curious what he looks like.

I"m not going to post a link as I am not certain if that would run afoul of board rules. But a little googling should turn up some bodybuilding results with a picture or two.

Frankly I was surprised at first by the weight divisions these guys compete in. But that just illustrated my ignorance of being wheel chair bound. Just never considered what percentage of total body mass my legs constitute. With atrophied, or no legs at all, one’s weight is going to seem a little out of proportion to their upper body.

The guy seems to have found something he enjoys and I have total respect for him not letting the wheelchair get in the way. I can even sympathize, that for him losing access to his favorite gym has to really suck, doubly so for being a competitive bodybuilder. However, I think his personality and not his handicap are to blame.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/236 "2011-08-26T21:41:07Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> Well, Jamie, if you didn’t know it before, anything you say on the Dope can and will be used against you (and likely in a very exaggerated way). As much as I agree with the douchiness of your behavior in previous threads, etc., I think it’s shitty for people to jump all over the whole alcohol/medical malpractice thing. That tendency to get a piece of info and go crazy with assumptions is one of the uglier things that happens here in the Pit.

Yeah, you only think that because you’re coked out of your mind.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/237 "2011-08-26T21:46:11Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I haven’t. I’m curious what he looks like.

> **[Paraplegic man confronts man illegally parked in handicapped spot, gets his...](https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2011/03/paraplegic_man_confronts_man_i.html)**
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> FLINT — Jamie McGarry did what he thought was right when he confronted a man who illegally parked in a handicapped spot at Hurley Health and Fitness.

In my Google toolbar I started typing in his name and by the time I got to “Jamie McG…” it was suggesting “Jamie McGarry Bodybuilder” and “Jamie McGarry Wheelchair”.

The below link may contain pictures - there’s a fair number of them, none of them captioned, some in a slideshow:

[http://www.wheelchair-bodybuilding.com/](http://www.wheelchair-bodybuilding.com/)

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/238 "2011-08-26T21:50:42Z")

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Why do they look spray-painted?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/239 "2011-08-26T22:24:15Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I haven’t. I’m curious what he looks like.

If you look through one of his threads, he posted a link to his facebook page.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/240 "2011-08-26T22:33:45Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Me too. Late, as in “passed away a long time ago.”

Alright! I’m still in my late 20’s! Awesome!

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