# JamieMcGarry - Wheel yourself on down here

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050 "2011-08-25T16:11:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/521 "2011-09-02T02:40:55Z")

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nm, MichaelEmouse, beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/522 "2011-09-02T02:42:41Z")

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Also, FYI, that shit looks dangerous as hell. You shouldn’t be allowed to do that in a gym that doesn’t belong to you.

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**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/523 "2011-09-02T02:43:52Z")

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Awesome. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/524 "2011-09-02T02:46:58Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> Don’t forget with the wheelchair pull-ups, Jamie required two other people to lift him up to the bar. Now never mind that they were volunteers doing this, it was still a risky activity outside the normal range of activities for the gym, and I am not surprised at all that the gym would say “Uh, no. We’d rather you not run the risk of injuring yourselves or Mr McGarry if you lift him incorrectly or drop his chair. Please stop doing that”

I wonder what would have happened if Jamie wanted to do his pull-ups and there weren’t two people who were willing to lift him and his wheelchair up to the bar? Would he have used his wheelchair to block anyone else from using the equipment until the gym forced two of their employees to assist him?

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/525 "2011-09-02T02:49:29Z")

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Then HE would have been in violation of the ADA, and his head would explode at the paradox.

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/526 "2011-09-02T02:56:15Z")

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> [@LurkerInNJ](#):
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> Jamie,
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> The next time you have to ask your friends on Facebook to join The Straight Dope Message Board because you need back-up, at least have had the good sense to make it private.

Ha! I like the way they are already calling everyone here ‘idiots’ and ‘ignorant’. Jamie must have brainwashed these people pretty good already. I’m sure they’ll be \*really \*hard to spot if they come over here to jump to his defence.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/527 "2011-09-02T03:02:26Z")

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> [@LurkerInNJ](#):
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> Jamie,
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> The next time you have to ask your friends on Facebook to join The Straight Dope Message Board because you need back-up, at least have had the good sense to make it private.

Oooh, good find! “Hey, I’m getting my ass-handed to me, wanna come and help me out here?”

Oh **jamie** , you so crazy!

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/528 "2011-09-02T03:09:40Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Also, FYI, that shit looks dangerous as hell. You shouldn’t be allowed to do that in a gym that doesn’t belong to you.

Yeah, agreed. And those two unfortunate guys spotting look as apprehensive as I’d feel about that situation.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/529 "2011-09-02T03:13:42Z")

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OMG that looks like an accident waiting to happen.

:eek:

I would not let you do that at all if I had any say in the matter. Anyone with a smidgen of imagination can easily imagine at least five different ways you could hurt yourself.

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/530 "2011-09-02T03:14:01Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Shut up you mean you have been discriminating against him because he is an asshole and not because of an ADA protected reason? Get on the bandwagon, dude.

I’M FILING SUITZ AGAINST YOU FOR NOT RESPONDING TO MY POST. Fuckin’ court room best have RAMPS!

Can somebody explain to me why Jamie doesn’t have his own teevee show yet? Those Kardashian girls can’t do pullups AND have legs (amirite?) so I don’t see how this could be.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/531 "2011-09-02T03:15:52Z")

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> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> Can somebody explain to me why Jamie doesn’t have his own teevee show yet? Those Kardashian girls can’t do pullups AND have legs (amirite?) so I don’t see how this could be.

Maybe you could write a pitch for A&E. It’s like Repo Men crossed with Intervention.

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**Author:** ![Feyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Feyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feyrat)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/532 "2011-09-02T03:20:46Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Also, FYI, that shit looks dangerous as hell. You shouldn’t be allowed to do that in a gym that doesn’t belong to you.

I hate to say it, because it is pretty cool that you’re able to do that (I sure can’t! Not even regular pullups!) but I totally agree with this. That looks way too dangerous at the height you’re at. Holy cow. I can’t blame the gym even a little for forbidding this!

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**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/533 "2011-09-02T03:23:32Z")

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I thought you were done posting about this?

> [@jamiemcgarry](#):
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> I need to step away from the discussion of everything HHFC/“parking-lot vigilante”-related.

[post]14202354[/post]

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/534 "2011-09-02T03:26:44Z")

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That actually sounds like an attempt to start a kind of board war, which is usually taken pretty seriously by the administration.

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**Author:** ![TheChileanBlob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thechileanblob/32/435_2.png) [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/535 "2011-09-02T03:32:40Z")

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Jamie, I couldn’t see the video very well, but can I ask why you do the pullups with your chair instead of just raising your body up? Is it just for the extra weight?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/536 "2011-09-02T03:37:34Z")

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> [@jamiemcgarry](#):
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> Below is a link to a short video of me performing a set of my wheelchair-pullups. If you notice a rightward sway as my set progresses, it is due to me being stronger on my right side. This is because of all the scar tissue I have on the left side of my upper back from surgery.
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> [http://sharing.theflip.com/session/f246c6af5dd5c88fef206e6ad69114b9/video/109449241](http://sharing.theflip.com/session/f246c6af5dd5c88fef206e6ad69114b9/video/109449241)

Who _cares?_  
I mean besides you and your little Facebook friends.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/537 "2011-09-02T03:44:36Z")

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Let’s dial back the harshness a little bit, folks.  
If you have a problem with another poster, you should know where to take it by now.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/538 "2011-09-02T03:53:03Z")

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:eek:

Seriously Jaime, that looks all kinds of dangerous. If you lost your grip, you’d likely bounce once and end up on your side (or front/back). Also, if the wheels kicked out, I could see your head hitting the concrete as a very real possibility. There’s no way those spotters could catch you if you fell. In fact, it didn’t even look like they were planning on it.

It’s cool that you can do that, but I wouldn’t let you do it if I owned the gym and I had to pay the insurance premiums.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/539 "2011-09-02T03:56:03Z")

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Missed the mod note.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/540 "2011-09-02T03:57:58Z")

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It just confirms what I thought - lifting a moving, breathing person in their wheelchair is unsteady and awkward at best. All it would take is for you shifting your weight unexpectedly and one of those guys losing his grip, and you’re bouncing off the floor.

They may have volunteered to do it, but it doesn’t change the fact that it is an action outside the standard acceptable range of risk, and I fully understand why the gym owners were not comfortable with allowing you or your spotters to undertake it.

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