# JamieMcGarry - Wheel yourself on down here **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050 "2011-08-25T16:11:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/61 "2011-08-25T20:20:12Z")
Sorry to post again so quickly, but the one comment under that video interview was too good not to share (bolding mine): > [@](#): > > Submitted by LocalMan48532 on Wed, 04/06/2011 - 10:45. What does this guy expect? He moved his car behind another guy and acted like a cop? \*\*This guy worked out at Hurley a bunch was a rude ass all the time. \*\*I am sure he acted worse that what he is saying. Maybe this guy should of minded his own business and he would still be a member. > If he would of blocked me in he would be ran over. The police have more important things to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/62 "2011-08-25T20:27:07Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > “I ordered this burger with NO ONIONS and there are ONIONS on this burger! What if I had a life-threatnening allergy to ONIONS? I’d have this place closed down! Get the manager, you clueless twit!” [Whatever organ or bone people have that makes 'em act right, some are born without it.](http://movieclips.com/YqRgj-talladega-nights-the-ballad-of-ricky-bobby-movie-dinner-at-applebees/) ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/63 "2011-08-25T20:29:37Z")
Frankly, I tried engaging him for a while, but I felt like I wasn’t making any headway at all in even approaching the concept of “reasonable people can disagree”. I’m not going to make any judgments about trollery, but when I simply stopped engaging him on that topic at that point because it wasn’t enjoyable for me or worth my time and effort. > [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > That is not really fair. Yes he was drinking, but his disability came from mistakes the doctors made. Why he was there is not relevant in my opinion. We’ve all made bad decisions, especially as 20 year olds. This, however, I will respond to, because this sort of reasoning utterly baffles me. I didn’t read about any of this, so I’ll take what you said at face value and, well, I have to disagree. The underlying point is that, whether the disability resulted directly from the accident or from substandard care after the accident, he wouldn’t have the disability if he hadn’t made the poor decision to begin with. It’s hardly an unforeseeable result that one could get disabled from driving drunk, that it happened as an indirect result rather than a direct result doesn’t somehow make the reason that he was in care to begin with irrelevant. That said, it doesn’t necessarily make suing unreasonable if it was a blatant mistake, of which I can’t speak since I didn’t read the thread in which it was mentioned. However, I don’t think you can morally separate those two events. It is the doctor providing the care who is on morally equal grounds despite the reason the person is there. As such, I would argue that while it may be morally justified, that he was drunk driving and sued the doctor who cared for him is still a valid reason for questioning his moral judgment IMO. Afterall, though sometimes consequences are well beyond the expected result of a decision, we cannot be absolved of responsibility when it is that decision that placed us in such a situation. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/64 "2011-08-25T20:33:34Z")
I can’t remember for sure, but I want to say that Jamie’s blood alcohol level was lower than the legal limit. If so, his drinking becomes totally irrelevant in my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/65 "2011-08-25T20:34:38Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > (fetches a case of Knob Creek) Done. What’s next? She said 100%. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/66 "2011-08-25T20:36:46Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > (fetches a case of Knob Creek) Done. What’s next? Usually I pass out. > [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Mean Old Lady is fast becoming my idol and role model too. _blushes_ You can increase your whiskey supply too (and then send it to me). ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/67 "2011-08-25T20:38:26Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Usually I pass out. > > _blushes_ You can increase your whiskey supply too (and then send it to me). I’m not sure I can increase it too much more than it is… I’m ready for stage 2. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/68 "2011-08-25T20:44:07Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Here’s my beef, and how and why he has rubbed me the wrong way from day one: > > He continually posts these stories in which he admits he’s acting like an asshole, yet everyone who chimes in with “yep, you were an asshole!” is ignored, yelled at, or insulted. He will defend his own behavior beyond all reasonable limits, even though he’s already admitted that he’s being a dick. What’s the point? Why come here and start some sort of discussion about an event in your life if you’ve already made up your mind that you are 100% correct and refuse to even entertain dissenting opinions? You think you’re that great? Fine. Why do you think we care? > > But then, as the arguments develop, out come the minutae. Holy crap, the level of detail he expects us all to absorb and remember. I don’t even care about my OWN life that much, but boy, if you fail to remember line 37 of post 123 from thread 16 five weeks ago, then you’re screwed. > > Jamie - WE DON’T CARE. You’re not that interesting. You’re just kind of a dick who feels the need to share that fact far and wide. Go do it some place else. Simply bypass my boring entries on this message board. It’s much easier, and less stressful (for all) than complaining about what I _ **do** _ post. That being said, I fully expect more snarky comments from you in the future, since that is all you have ever produced in any of my threads. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/69 "2011-08-25T20:45:30Z")
Or maybe, you could stop being such a one trick pony instead of requesting that everybody ignores your one-dimensional and repetitive posts. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/70 "2011-08-25T20:46:37Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > Somehow I think that if jamiemcgarry weren’t disabled he’d still be a confrontational asshole. Some people just seem to thrive on conflict and have “self-confident and assertive” mixed up with “being a whiny, selfish twat” +1 > [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > As my grandpa liked to say, you can’t shine shit. [Busted.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/71 "2011-08-25T20:49:16Z")
> [@jamiemcgarry](#): > > Simply bypass my boring entries on this message board. It’s much easier, and less stressful (for all) than complaining about what I _ **do** _ post. That being said, I fully expect more snarky comments from you in the future, since that is all you have ever produced in any of my threads. To be fair, he also produces a fair amount of smegma but we’re mostly too polite to mention it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/72 "2011-08-25T20:53:37Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > So you see no issue with stirring up trouble for a non-profit medical centre? You are determined to cause financial hardship for a place that is dedicated to helping the disabled. Good activism there! > > Of course you apparently saw no issue with suing someone for saving your life after you attempted to kill yourself by driving drunk, so I suspect your reasonableness meter might be a touch off. I missed that–mainly because, as has been pointed out, the OTP just isn’t all that interesting. Can you provide a link please? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/73 "2011-08-25T20:55:17Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Or maybe, you could stop being such a one trick pony instead of requesting that everybody ignores your one-dimensional and repetitive posts. The “one trick pony” allegation rears it’s ugly head. SMH Go and take a look at my profile and go tally up my “threads started” list. :rolleyes: You have quite a selective eye for what I post. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/74 "2011-08-25T21:04:54Z")
> [@jamiemcgarry](#): > > The “one trick pony” allegation rears it’s ugly head. SMH > Go and take a look at my profile and go tally up my “threads started” list. :rolleyes: You have quite a selective eye for what I post. That might be true. Then again, on the other hand if I recall correctly, you did not start any threads not related to your pet cause until somebody complained about it. I said it before and I’ll say it again. You need to lay off posting about your pet cause. I don’t think its good for you personally in real life. And its not good for your reputation here. You are not accomplishing anything here. You are just raising your blood pressure and pissing off people. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/75 "2011-08-25T21:06:26Z")
I love when someone says something like this in response to a demand for explanations. > [@Slipped under the radar?? \[About me getting kicked out of gym\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slipped-under-the-radar-about-me-getting-kicked-out-of-gym/593872/86): > > I’m done TRYING to explain this to you. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/76 "2011-08-25T21:07:17Z")
FWIW, I’ve got a lot of time for **jamiemcgarry**. He gave me some really good advice in a thread I started a while back about my difficulties with insomnia, and was very understanding. He’s a good guy, and based on what _I’ve_ read, the worst you can accuse him of is refusing to take any shit. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/77 "2011-08-25T21:10:48Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Mean Old Lady is fast becoming my idol and role model too. And her perspiration makes a lovely vinaigrette, which is a nice bonus. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/78 "2011-08-25T21:15:52Z")
Jamie - What precisely are you hoping to achieve via mediation with the HMCC? I don’t expect they’ll actually go through that process with you, as their lawyers will laugh their asses off at your case against them, but let’s say they decide they’d like to sit down with you and work something out… What do you envision as the end result of that? You say you’re not in it for the money, yet in another thread you’ve stated multiple times that the HMCC is going to “pay” and that this is going to cost them money. If you don’t want money from them, then what? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/79 "2011-08-25T21:18:25Z")
> [@George\_Kaplin](#): > > FWIW, I’ve got a lot of time for **jamiemcgarry**. He gave me some really good advice in a thread I started a while back about my difficulties with insomnia, and was very understanding. He’s a good guy, and based on what _I’ve_ read, the worst you can accuse him of is refusing to take any shit. A of all, you should read more of his posts. B of all, that’s better advice than anything he could have given you. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/80 "2011-08-25T21:28:45Z")
I haven’t read all the threads, but at least occasionally **jamie** ’s disability situations point up legitimate issues. For example I think he was perfectly justified in wanting to keep his chair (folded) with him in the restaurant, not have it taken and put somewhere by staff. Now, he may not have _handled_ it ideally, and he may not have presented it in the best possible terms here, but there _was_ a real thing there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050.md?page=5)