# JamieMcGarry - Wheel yourself on down here

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050 "2011-08-25T16:11:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/821 "2012-02-15T01:59:14Z")

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> [@Apex\_Rogers](#):
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> [http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tact](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tact)

You have to know what tact is before you think to Google it. Hopefully this will shed some light on the situation.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/822 "2012-02-15T02:05:13Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> You have to know what tact is before you think to Google it. Hopefully this will shed some light on the situation.

Uh huh. The messages in our posts were identical but the phrasing was a bit different. _That_ is the only reason for the onslaught of criticism I have faced for my participation in **Frank’s** thread? You all are a bunch of dishonest ass-wipes.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/823 "2012-02-15T02:06:03Z")

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Dude, that’s almost the exact definition of tact, more intelligent (or sensitive, in this case) phrasing.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/824 "2012-02-15T02:07:12Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> Dude, that’s almost the exact definition of tact, more intelligent (or sensitive, in this case) phrasing.

I know. ??

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/825 "2012-02-15T02:08:10Z")

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Then that’s why you’re getting grief and someone, who expressed the same sentiments, isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/826 "2012-02-15T02:13:22Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I know. ??

Then why are you still confused? And how are we the ass-wipes when you are completely tone-deaf to how your comments come across?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/827 "2012-02-15T02:16:07Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> This poster echoed the exact same sentiments as I did yet not a single person seemed to take issue with her post. Why is this?

You have a posting history that is confrontational and the perception of said history is that it is less than honest on occasion.

> [@miss elizabeth](#):
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> Because there is a group of people who strongly dislike you, and will find any reason they can to “call you out”, probably until you decide to leave the board. I like you, both as a person, and as a poster, and I wish this wasn’t so, but it is. They will hound you until you leave, or until they’re banned, or until they get tired of it, I suppose. But I wouldn’t hope for the latter.

Ridiculous. He is called out because most of his stories go something like, “I was being as polite as I could then this asshole…”. It strains credibility.

Mind you, I don’t dislike him nor do I wish to see him banned but given that this is a message board and I come here for the entertainment of interaction with others, I will offer my opinions about his posts on occasion.

That said, to play nice I offer you both a smile.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/828 "2012-02-15T02:21:23Z")

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> [@Apex\_Rogers](#):
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> Then why are you still confused? And how are we the ass-wipes when you are completely tone-deaf to how your comments come across?

Re-read my posts. I am not getting bogged down in this pit bullshit again. This criticism is disingeneous. Some members on this board (it’s always the same ole names) like to use any excuse (whether valid or not) to totally bash and smear my character. Ok, I admit to perhaps using awkward wording in my post. But that’s it. The guy who started the thread himself has accepted my apology for my wording. I have nothing else to say. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Cub\_Mistress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@Cub\_Mistress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cub_Mistress)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/829 "2012-02-15T02:48:30Z")

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Jamie, once again I offer the combined wisdom of the SDMB and the world: Shut your cakehole and let the world move on, because all will be forgotten when the next trainwreck comes along but only if you SHUT UP. You might even be right and I would still offer this advice, sometimes the only remedy is to let go of needing to be right, of needing things to be fair, of needing to be understood correctly and simply SHUTTING UP.

In case you are NOT CLEAR. this is a time to SHUT UP.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/830 "2012-02-15T03:09:49Z")

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> [@Cub\_Mistress](#):
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> Jamie, once again I offer the combined wisdom of the SDMB and the world: Shut your cakehole and let the world move on, because all will be forgotten when the next trainwreck comes along but only if you SHUT UP. You might even be right and I would still offer this advice, sometimes the only remedy is to let go of needing to be right, of needing things to be fair, of needing to be understood correctly and simply SHUTTING UP.
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> In case you are NOT CLEAR. this is a time to SHUT UP.

Mom?  
😃

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**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/831 "2012-02-15T04:54:24Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Ok, I admit to perhaps using awkward wording in my post. But that’s it.

Do you agree that the tone of a statement is an important factor in how it is perceived? Just because you have good intentions doesn’t make it OK to behave in any sort of manner to get your point across. The whole reason people jumped on you is the “awkward wording” as you put it. I might refer to it as “blunt and insensitive” and so would a few others. This is the point that you don’t seem to be taking on board.

It’s great that **Frank** accepted your apology and I don’t want to harp on that particular exchange any more, so I’d rather steer this conversation to a more general place if you’d care to continue. I think you should try and see if there are ways you can communicate better without being so abrasive. People will be more willing to accommodate to your handicap and give you the respect you think you deserve if you show them some respect first.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/832 "2012-02-15T06:05:20Z")

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> [@Cub\_Mistress](#):
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> In case you are NOT CLEAR. this is a time to SHUT UP.

100 quatloos says he responds.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/833 "2012-02-15T06:07:32Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> I agree it’s a douchy thing to say. I get that it was well intended but, fucking hell, educate yourself. Unless the person you are talking to is a devout Christian, “They’re in a better place now” is not a comforting condolence.
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> It’s The 'Dope - it’s what we do.

Actually, even for devout Christians it can be annoying. I remember as a kid my school principal telling me something like that when my aunt died and I knew she meant well, I was like, “well, does that mean I should be HAPPY?” Granted, she was a nun, so it was natural for her to say things like that, but it still was annoying to me. I didn’t care.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/834 "2012-02-15T06:21:59Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Actually, even for devout Christians it can be annoying. I remember as a kid my school principal telling me something like that when my aunt died and I knew she meant well, I was like, “well, does that mean I should be HAPPY?” Granted, she was a nun, so it was natural for her to say things like that, but it still was annoying to me. I didn’t care.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/835 "2012-02-15T07:24:17Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Last edited by Ambivalid; Today at 10:23 PM. Reason: thought better of returning to this thread.

Yeah, right, except you did. Reason-for-edit is your new ‘[I’m not saying it (but I’m saying it)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=641960)’.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/836 "2012-02-15T07:44:09Z")

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Anyone know what he said? Now I’m curious.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/837 "2012-02-15T07:48:31Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Anyone know what he said? Now I’m curious.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14771868&postcount=143](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14771868&postcount=143)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/838 "2012-02-15T07:57:56Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14771868&postcount=143](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14771868&postcount=143)

_sigh_ No, I mean what you said before you decided to pull your little passive-aggressive, “thought better of returning to this thread” bullshit. Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/839 "2012-02-15T12:46:53Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> ..

How many times have you done that in the last two days?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/840 "2012-02-15T13:41:28Z")

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Wait. McGarry wasn’t banned way back when? Drat.

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