# JamieMcGarry - Wheel yourself on down here **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050 "2011-08-25T16:11:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/101 "2011-08-26T01:33:52Z")
> [@My\_Freakin\_Back\_Is\_Killing\_Me](#): > > Hate to nitpick and I don’t feel like digging for the post but he was in fact over the legal limit. I’m pretty sure he mentioned he was 19 or 20 at the time of his accident, in which case the legal limit is zero. The link in post #88 confirms that he was 20 at the time of his accident. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/102 "2011-08-26T01:44:09Z")
You know what they say: If everybody’s saying the same thing, it’s at least worth investigating. Maybe, just maybe, they’re right. You’re like those people who always complain that nobody else knows how to communicate…nobody they have ever met can remember anything they tell them, everybody misunderstands what they say. Maybe you can’t communicate as well as you think? Jamie, if almost everyone here is interpreting your posts the same way, and drawing the same conclusions about your probable motivations, then perhaps they are right and you are wrong, or perhaps you have done a terrible job of communicating your position? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/103 "2011-08-26T02:04:56Z")
> [@echo6160](#): > > Jamie, if almost everyone here is interpreting your posts the same way, and drawing the same conclusions about your probable motivations, then perhaps they are right and you are wrong, or perhaps you have done a terrible job of communicating your position? 😕 The funny thing is, there was a link somewhere in this thread (I think it was this thread) to a radio show he was on. I listened to some bits and pieces of it (it was ungodly dull) and he came off as a nice polite person..but the single comment under the clip basically said the same thing everyone here is saying. The other thing that I thought was odd was the the host made an interesting observation, she mentioned that if the only two incidents at the health club were the pull ups and the parking lot and he got kicked out, something else was going on. She seemed to be implying that for some reason the health club wanted to get rid of him and was using the parking lot incident as a reason to do it. And this is from a person that, to the best of my knowledge knows nothing more about him that what was aired on that show and probably a three sentence bio that she read the week before. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/104 "2011-08-26T02:06:58Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I get that **jamie** wants to be an advocate for disabled rights, and that’s both an admirable and very necessary role. The problem is, he’s _fucking awful at it._ From _Patch Adams_: > [@](#): > > **[Hunter Patch Adams](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/)**: Last night with Rudy, I connected to another human being. I want more of that. I want to learn about people, help them with their troubles. > > **[Dr. Prack](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342881/)**: That’s what I do. > > **[Hunter Patch Adams](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/)**: Yeah, but you suck at it. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/105 "2011-08-26T02:10:22Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > The link in post #88 confirms that he was 20 at the time of his accident. And the drinking age is Michigan is 21, so he was underage when he got behind the wheel with alcohol in his blood. There’s [karma](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=616509), and then there’s straightforward cause and effect. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/106 "2011-08-26T02:14:51Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > And the drinking age is Michigan is 21, so he was underage when he got behind the wheel with alcohol in his blood. There’s [karma](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=616509), and then there’s straightforward cause and effect. Regardless, the doctors made a huge mistake. He had a right to sue. He didn’t deserve to be paralyzed because he had a few beers when he was 20 and made the mistake of driving. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/107 "2011-08-26T02:19:48Z")
If you ever quote _Patch Adams_ at me again, I swear to God I will ban you. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/108 "2011-08-26T02:20:42Z")
> [@ugly ripe tomato](#): > > I want to be [**MeanOldLady**] when I grow up. 😕 You didn’t already? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/109 "2011-08-26T02:21:57Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > If you ever quote _Patch Adams_ at me again, I swear to God I will ban you. Whats your position on giant model walk through vaginas? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/110 "2011-08-26T02:24:24Z")
Cautiously optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Freakin\_Back\_Is\_Killing\_Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@My\_Freakin\_Back\_Is\_Killing\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Freakin_Back_Is_Killing_Me)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/111 "2011-08-26T02:25:13Z")
I’m not weighing in on whether or not the doctors made a mistake, but I don’t think he is fully absolved of any responsibility in the matter either. If he were drinking and driving under age and hit and injured or killed a toddler, who would be at fault? Well, instead of hitting a toddler he nearly killed himself. Sure we all make mistakes and no one anticipates huge consequences for doing something that seems minor at the time but sometimes we take a gamble and we lose. Such is life. > [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Regardless, the doctors made a huge mistake. He had a right to sue. He didn’t deserve to be paralyzed because he had a few beers when he was 20 and made the mistake of driving. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/112 "2011-08-26T02:39:51Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > He didn’t deserve to be paralyzed because he had a few beers when he was 20 and made the mistake of driving. O, it was all just a mistake. I’m sorry I drank underage and crashed a car with my friend in the passenger seat and almost killed myself, it was all just a misunderstanding, it wasn’t a deliberate choice to do something selfish, dangerous and illegal, and it is somebody else’s fault I have to live with the consequences. Why, I oughta sue the guy that saved me, that’ll teach _him_ with his fancy medical degree. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/113 "2011-08-26T02:42:28Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > If you ever quote _Patch Adams_ at me again, I swear to God I will ban you. I love this thread more and more. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/114 "2011-08-26T02:43:40Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Cautiously optimistic. Okay, so I need to pull my money out of real estate and invest in vagina futures? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/115 "2011-08-26T02:54:00Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > O, it was all just a mistake. I’m sorry I drank underage and crashed a car with my friend in the passenger seat and almost killed myself, it was all just a misunderstanding, it wasn’t a deliberate choice to do something selfish, dangerous and illegal, and it is somebody else’s fault I have to live with the consequences. Why, I oughta sue the guy that saved me, that’ll teach _him_ with his fancy medical degree. What if you crash into a tree because you’ve been drinking and driving and I come along, pull you out of the car, then curb stomp your nuts? Would your drinking and driving be to blame for your smashed genitalia? As far as I know, his being paralyzed isn’t a disability caused by any injury sustained from the crash. It was because a doctor fucked up. I mean, I want to keep pissing on **Jamie** , but let’s piss on him for the right reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/116 "2011-08-26T02:55:56Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > What if you crash into a tree because you’ve been drinking and driving and I come along, pull you out of the car, then curb stomp your nuts? Would your drinking and driving be to blame for your smashed genitalia? I suppose it would depend on whether or not curb-stomping my goolies was a life-saving treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/117 "2011-08-26T02:58:01Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > As far as I know, his being paralyzed isn’t a disability caused by any injury sustained from the crash. It was because a doctor fucked up. I mean, I want to keep pissing on **Jamie** , but let’s piss on him for the right reasons. What if we’re angry at our brother and don’t want to leave the room to go to the toilet – is **jamie** a legitimate surrogate toilet? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/118 "2011-08-26T03:01:33Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > I suppose it would depend on whether or not curb-stomping my goolies was a life-saving treatment. No, **Jack** , it wasn’t. Pulling you out of the car was, though. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > What if we’re angry at our brother and don’t want to leave the room to go to the toilet – is **jamie** a legitimate surrogate toilet? I conferred with the panel and the answer is yes. He’s allowed to close his mouth when being pissed on for such a reason, however. Edit: Know what? After giving it more thought… I’m not sure where I stand on the issue that **Jack** raises. You may take short pisses on him until I’ve reached a verdict. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/119 "2011-08-26T03:02:31Z")
This is really unfair. **jamiemcgarry** has contributed a lot to the SDMB. Without him, many people would not know about the ignore list. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050/120 "2011-08-26T03:16:23Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > This is really unfair. **jamiemcgarry** has contributed a lot to the SDMB. Without him, many people would not know about the ignore list. Who the hell needs an ignore list for that? The thread title will reliably make it clear whether you’re getting Bruce Banner Jamie or Hulk Jamie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jamiemcgarry-wheel-yourself-on-down-here/594050.md?page=7)