# Jan. 21, 2009 .Do you advise former president Bush to limit his foreign travel?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 12, 2006, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018 "2006-03-12T04:43:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/81 "2006-03-13T17:39:36Z")

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Well, it’s not just about national polls. It’s also about internal party politics. McCain isn’t going to win much insofar as internal matters go.

I dunno.

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/82 "2006-03-13T19:32:31Z")

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\*The bullshit flows still.[/I

that would be my surname, you schmuck, What, you think I’m running around with the first name of Alaric? Or, if so, that I would expose it on the internet? I take it that you, on the other hand, are an inveterate golf player. It figures…

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/83 "2006-03-13T19:38:50Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Then how about _not posting to your own fucking thread five times in a row!_
> 
> Look, you are a marginally functional far-left fruitcake. I can accept that - heaven knows you aren’t alone hereabouts. But you are an _annoying_, marginally functional far-left fruitcake. Give the hamsters a freaking break - organize the thoughts in that sludge pile at the top of your spinal cord, put them into one fucking post, and then give it a rest, wouldja?
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> Sheesh.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

buy some more bandwidth, then. I’ve had too many long posts swallowed up by a bad handshake. Hence,I reply one post per interlocuter. If this is an offense, take it to the mods. If not, fuck yourself.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/84 "2006-03-13T23:02:32Z")

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No, no, Fuck You.

How about you compose your fucking posts using fucking notepad, then fucking copy your fucking post into a fucking reply window?

You do know how to fucking copy and fucking paste, right?

Fuckhead.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/85 "2006-03-13T23:37:24Z")

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Everyone else manages it, somehow - what the hell is wrong with you?

And you say this part -

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> I’ve had too many long posts swallowed up by a bad handshake.

like it’s a _bad_ thing.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/86 "2006-03-14T00:30:36Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Everyone else manages it, somehow - what the hell is wrong with you?
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> And you say this part -like it’s a _bad_ thing.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

perhaps its my “free” wi-fi at the margin of reliable distance–perhaps you would like to underwrite an account, but you must guarantee equivalent anonymity, which would be difficult.

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/87 "2006-03-14T00:31:53Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> No, no, Fuck You.
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> How about you compose your fucking posts using fucking notepad, then fucking copy your fucking post into a fucking reply window?
> 
> You do know how to fucking copy and fucking paste, right?
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> Fuckhead.

too much fucking trouble.

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/88 "2006-03-14T00:33:48Z")

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besides, what with the A.D.D. and all, short posts are all I dare attempt…

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/89 "2006-03-15T23:21:34Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> He’d probably say “Thanks, but I prefer Slice”

wrong again–G-dub has been devotedly drinking coca-cola ever since he heard about the constituents of the original formula.

He has the secret service searching old warehouses, flea markets and antique stores, praying to find a stash of 19th century bottles, still unopened…

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/90 "2006-03-16T04:42:24Z")

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On the contrary. W is known for his lack of foreign travel before becoming Pres. Wasn’t he the POTUS who’d never had a passport? I’d encourage him to travel, see the world without the bubble & the authority, & maybe start to grasp what people really thought of him.

Mind, I don’t expect him to do it.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/91 "2006-03-16T04:51:17Z")

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Or, y’know, I could at least read the whole OP…

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/92 "2006-03-16T04:58:35Z")

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Or you could read posts #37 and 42 of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/93 "2006-03-16T19:45:59Z")

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> [@alaricthegoth](#):
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> “Once he he leaves office, it’s difficult to think of any country Bush will be able to set foot on the tarmac (apart from Saudi Arabia, or Kuwait) where a posse won’t be waiting to haul him in for crimes against humanity. As president, his security apparatus can depopulate the streets of London or the Irish countryside to keep protesters unseen and unheard; as ex-president, his imperial desires will be less indulged, his protective bubble considerably shrunken.”  
> [http://www.jameswolcott.com/](http://www.jameswolcott.com/)
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> The always pithy James Wolcott raises the prospect that retribution for his war crimes may await G-dub,( a la General Pinochet), courtesy of the \*grab’em where you can and try’em here jurisdiction enshrined in the European Union’s Charter of Human Rights.

This is a moot and rather idiotic prospect, given that Bush has not committed any crimes against humanity.

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/94 "2006-03-16T22:15:49Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> This is a moot and rather idiotic prospect, given that Bush has not committed any crimes against humanity.

well, then, he may anticipate a speedy acquittal at the Hague…

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/95 "2006-03-16T22:51:01Z")

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> [@alaricthegoth](#):
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> too much fucking trouble.

Look, you gibbering baboon, if your semi-coherent posts are constantly being lost in transit, then it only makes fucking sense to start composing your gems of wisdom in notepad, polishing your prose until it gleams, then and only then sending, and if your post gets eaten by interweb jackals before it gets her–then you just resend!

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/96 "2006-03-17T20:22:51Z")

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_baboon_

inasmuch as you style yourself “lemur”, I take it that as one type of monkey to another, we are all just a bunch of feces-hurlers here.

If you have stylistic problems with my posts, please feel free to **ignore** them.

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/97 "2006-03-17T20:53:56Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> This is a moot and rather idiotic prospect, given that Bush has not committed any crimes against humanity.

juan cole, another lunatic,

You wonder if the Bushes will be able to vacation in Europe when he goes out of office, or if Pinochet’s fate awaits George  
.[http://www.juancole.com/](http://www.juancole.com/)

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/98 "2006-03-17T21:29:55Z")

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> [@alaricthegoth](#):
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> - let’s talk about Clinton.\*
> 
> sorry to diappoint. he was in violation of international law, he did deserve a trip to the hague.

For such a thing to happen, the court would need to have the authority to try crimes commited before it was created, and it doesn’t, and “waging war without UN approval” should be a prosecutable crime, and it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/99 "2006-03-30T08:18:29Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> For such a thing to happen, the court would need to have the authority to try crimes commited before it was created, and it doesn’t, and “waging war without UN approval” should be a prosecutable crime, and it isn’t.

fair enough–I was using “a trip to the Hague” as a metaphor for a trip to a"virtual" Nuremburg…

I believe that the waging of aggressive warfare is a crime against humanity per the geneva accords, and was certainly on the indictment list at nuremburg.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-21-2009-do-you-advise-former-president-bush-to-limit-his-foreign-travel/348018/100 "2006-03-30T16:07:08Z")

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The United Nations agreement on Iraq’s compliance with weapons inspections did reserve the right to use military force if necessary.

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