# Jan 6 ceremony and NO members of the republican party attended except: **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 7, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371 "2022-01-07T11:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/101 "2022-01-14T14:39:30Z")
> [@Drsunflower1](#): > > Sorry @Akaj for the snark upthread. I thought you beat me to it, and then I was too late to edit. What snark? You _did_ beat me to it! I should have probably added a 😜 after my Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/102 "2022-01-14T14:42:12Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I think a good case could be made that the US would benefit from something like this (and indeed the UK’s regulators should have more teeth). Obviously not going to happen though. And a good case against: If the commission (or whatever it is) falls under GOP control, they could apply the screws to CNN and MSNBC with no basis whatsoever in fact. And you know they would. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/103 "2022-01-14T15:25:50Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > And a good case against: If the commission (or whatever it is) falls under GOP control, they could apply the screws to CNN and MSNBC with no basis whatsoever in fact. And you know they would. That in and of itself is a sign that the underlying social contract is no longer being upheld. And I think that is where the focus should be. Not on content per se but on the fact that the rules that were once established are no longer being played by, by one party in particular, and that that’s problematic. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/104 "2022-01-14T15:32:18Z")
> [@Drsunflower1](#): > > When it comes to primary education, critical thinking and logic skills should be first and foremost taught/developed. But this is so painfully easy for the US Right Wing to refute: > Yeah. You mean _liberal indoctrination._ Math, science, literature, language, logic, etc., etc., were never looked at as ‘partisan’ through the long lens of history. Whatever you like about where you live, the above subjects had much to do with their existence. But now … yes … in this incredibly propagandistic and demagogic landscape (not only the US but the foreboding strengthening of other ‘populist’ regimes with ‘strongman’ leaders around the world) they’re demonizing anything and everything that ever got us anywhere. The military would applaud this whole approach as highly effective PsyOps (psychological operations), just to bring it toward your profession 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/105 "2022-01-14T15:44:17Z")
Again, though, this is pretty easily refuted by the Right: > So the Left has dominated the media, higher education, literature, and entertainment since time immemorial, controlling the entire American narrative and putting _their_ spin on _everything that every American has consumed in 200 years,_ and now – now that Conservatives have access to another perspective – you want to shut us down. As always, I don’t subscribe to **any aspect** of this argument, but you can be sure it’s the argument you’ll get. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/106 "2022-01-14T16:09:22Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > The military would applaud this whole approach as highly effective PsyOps (psychological operations), just to bring it toward your profession 😉 I consider ALL human behavior worthy of study in that respect. That gives me the perfect excuse for considering all media I consume as professional literature 😉 When it comes to PsyOps /mind control, that basically starts with undermining or ridiculing critical thinking, yes. If you read Steve Hassan (for the cult variant of mind control) or Robert Jay Lifton (for the military variant) that’s what underpins it. Stamping out or not developing a mind of one’s own. Putting the pressure on to conform until the personality gives way to the cult persona. Or preventing a personality from developing in the first place. You only need to look at the role schools have been playing in breeding terrorists in the Middle East. Poor people who leave their children in a madrassa that offers free education/learning to read and write, and are absolutely shocked to find their children indoctrinated in hateful Islamism and ready to go on jihad. In Holland we have the constitutional Article 23, which provides us with freedom of education. We have hard-core Calvinist schools that teach their children that homosexuality is a sin, that women are complementary to men instead of equal and that God trumps the law, and everyone who thinks differently is surely going to hell. We now have a far right politician who is preparing to fund his own schools where children will be indoctrinated in white supremacism. Christopher Hitchens was eerily prescient, as usual, when he described the great challenge of our times as Enlightenment vs. Dark Ages. That’s what it boils down to. And we can lose this battle pretty quickly if we’re not really careful. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/107 "2022-01-14T16:33:59Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > As always, I don’t subscribe to **any aspect** of this argument, but you can be sure it’s the argument you’ll get. I’m afraid you’re right. Homegrown Dark Ages against Enlightenment. When it comes to my profession, on a slight sidenote, psychiatry is hands down the most easy medical profession to politicize. In fact, we have a history of that. That’s why I always ask my students to look up both _Drapetomania_ and _Sluggish Schizophrenia_ on Wikipedia, because they are usually reluctant to believe this actually happens in science. I think that kind of knowledge greatly informs my outlook and interest. That and a life long fascination with the ability of man to lie and swallow lies. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371/108 "2022-01-17T12:52:53Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I am fully behind opposing the death cult that is the Trumpian Republican Party, but that won’t stop me from trying to save people from the cult. Those that can be saved should be saved because they are fellow human beings. > > If we condemn out of hand anyone who at any time wore the label “Republican” then we are no better than they are. > > If you condemn absolutely all Republicans then you have backed them all into a corner, and cornered people are dangerous. Give people an out and some of them will leave the cult, and any way we can bleed the Trumpists is a good thing. Well, in Virginia many voters thought it was safe to vote for a Republican that claimed he was not Trump, but he won in large part thanks to promises to keep the death cult going. Too bad that was not just rhetoric. > **[New Virginia Governor Youngkin to Lift School Mask Mandate, Change COVID...](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/coronavirus/new-virginia-governor-youngkin-to-lift-school-mask-mandate-change-covid-policies/2936944/)** > > Virginia’s next governor, Glenn Youngkin, said he will lift the state’s school mask mandate and change other COVID-19 policies after taking office Jan. 15. The new Republican lieutenant governor is just the same. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-ceremony-and-no-members-of-the-republican-party-attended-except/957371.md?page=5)