# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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I believe the committee wove in other video to ms pelosi’s footage to show what was going on outside during the leadership calls inside.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> (Unless, of course, she had sources in the Secret Service—in which case she’d have known in advance that the SS was aware of, and apparently indifferent to, the fact that Trump’s fans were planning to attack the Capitol…)

This bit (how much and how early the SS knew about impending violence, and how much the crowd was likely to be armed) was one of my big surprises today. I didn’t want to believe how thoroughly the SS had been suborned by and/or infiltrated with Trump loyalists. Otherwise, why wouldn’t their chief have said something to the other services charged with protecting the Capitol?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2425 "2022-10-14T01:06:45Z")

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I guess the secret service isn’t merely expected to lay their lives down for the president, but to sell their very souls.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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A new piece of video from Jan 6 shows pelosi being told that the secret service will not allow trump to come to the capitol. She states she would punch him in the face if he came up, and go to jail happy.

> **[Pelosi said before insurrection that she would ‘punch’ Trump if he came to...](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3687685-pelosi-said-before-insurrection-that-she-would-punch-trump-if-he-came-to-capitol-footage/amp/)**
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> House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said on the day of the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection that she would “punch \[then-President Trump\] out” if he came to the Capitol after his rally at the Ellipse.&n…

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2427 "2022-10-14T02:44:10Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I just don’t want to see “Donald Trump” SEASON TWO.

Well, he already has a leitmotiv, “If I had a Heart” by Fever Ray.  
This will never end  
'Cause I want more  
More, give me more, give me more

If I had a heart I could love you  
If I had a voice I would sing  
After the night when I wake up  
I’ll see what tomorrow brings

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2428 "2022-10-14T03:10:54Z")

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good overview of the hearing today.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fafq7aTFz9U/maxresdefault.jpg "January 6th Panel Votes to Subpoena Trump | The Mehdi Hasan Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fafq7aTFz9U)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2429 "2022-10-14T13:39:50Z")

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[Trump releases 12-page response to Jan. 6 hearing (yahoo.com)](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-releases-12-page-response-230344723.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAEhRdCGoxO1spcXA_tnBWDSbnsgXKeY52-2nKu4SopkT0L4Zy9ug2nCznKPDzCIJgVxHspYkAYNLtd94WmxADIQrUGbX9Z8HL0HZMDhe1tcgcGVMXlvMFKY2Ui9EmWNgdgznbRQ9ej-TnRPPb_AJaydh8D3MEf8SMMXKqP8ETid)

trump response: “crowd size”, “look at my crowd size”, “did i mention my HUGE crowd size”.

[Statement-by-Trump-1.pdf (heavy.com)](https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Statement-by-Trump-1.pdf)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2430 "2022-10-14T13:55:38Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Trump releases 12-page response to Jan. 6 hearing ([yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com))

Funny how none of his dozens of lawyers were willing to assert any of that in a court of law.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2431 "2022-10-14T15:06:45Z")

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That article is from June.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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I very much enjoyed hearing how irate Trump was when the Supreme Court rejected the stupid AG Paxton lawsuit in December of 2020.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2433 "2022-10-14T15:23:22Z")

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Here’s an article about Cheato’s latest bloviation (which is pretty much the same Festivus airing of grievances as the one back in June, so it’s a natural mistake).

> **[Trump blasts House Jan. 6 panel in memo, but doesn't respond to subpoena for...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/10/14/trump-reaction-house-jan-6-panel-subpoena-vote/10495416002/)**
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> Trump criticized the Jan. 6 committee and its work but did not respond to the panel's decision to subpoena him for testimony and documents.

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oops, sorry, too many windows. here we go.

[830-am-final-january-6th-committee-letter14446.pdf (nucleusfiles.com)](https://cdn.nucleusfiles.com/27/27b7896f-01c5-4609-93c7-742e5cb22e96/830-am-final-january-6th-committee-letter14446.pdf?utm_medium=email_hf&utm_source=ncl __&utm_campaign=20221014___ sa&utm_content=__6167&_nlid=test123&_nhids=TEST)

look at my huge crowd, i have pictures!

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2435 "2022-10-14T15:48:33Z")

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I can practically feel IQ points burning off from reading that.

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And as pointed out by **silenus** ,

> [@silenus](#):
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> Funny how none of his dozens of lawyers were willing to assert any of that in a court of law.

I suspect it’s the difference between lying to the public, which has no consequences, and lying to a judge, which does.

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I can practically feel IQ points burning off from reading that.

It’s The random Capitalization.

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I can practically feel IQ points burning off from reading that.

I honestly thought it was parody. Apparently it’s real. Jesus.

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“PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY”

snerk.

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I can tell which parts he wrote himself (using some sort of royal we) and which parts a staffer did for him. Ugh. Now I want to bleach my brain.

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He sends a mob of thousands to murder her, her colleagues, and the Vice President, and she threatens to punch him in the nose. How are they any different? 🙄

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> 830-am-final-january-6th-committee-letter14446.pdf

His basic argument seems to be that the discrepancies between the popular vote and the electoral college vote prove that someone must be cheating.

I remember, back in 2017, that everyone was saying that Trump had simply had a better Electoral College strategy and that Hillary had blundered by focusing on the popular vote and ignoring the College.

I thought that Trump was one of the people who was saying that. If so, I can’t find it. He does seem to have been fairly consistent through the years in thinking that the Electoral College is a system for cheating.

Of course, he would never have been President if he’d had his way. So, by his own explanation, he must have cheated in 2016. The EC vote should match the popular vote. Only when it doesn’t, did someone cheat.

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> His basic argument seems to be that the discrepancies between the popular vote and the electoral college vote prove that someone must be cheating.

No, it just means that a system that gives rural states one vote each for people, cows, and tumbleweeds has a built-in Republican bias, explaining how they remain competitive in Presidential elections despite routinely losing in the popular vote tally.

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