# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 123
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2443 "2022-10-14T16:24:02Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I thought that Trump was one of the people who was saying that. If so, I can’t find it. He does seem to have been fairly consistent through the years in thinking that the Electoral College is a system for cheating. > > Of course, he would never have been President if he’d had his way. So, by his own explanation, he must have cheated in 2016. The EC vote should match the popular vote. Only when it doesn’t, did someone cheat. Not really. He’s been consistent on this, as he claimed cheating on Hillary’s part in the 2016 election, saying that he should have won the popular vote, too. Stupid, but consistent. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2444 "2022-10-14T16:28:54Z")
> Since 1888, no incumbent President has gained votes and lost reelection. I received many millions more votes in 2020 than I did in 2016, unheard of in our political History. I think he fails to understand the how massively he is hated by so many in this country. He’s trying to understand how he lost to Biden. It’s not about Biden. The vote was largely anti-Trump. He needs to let that sink in. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2445 "2022-10-14T16:31:15Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > He needs to let that sink in. [The most beloved political figure in US history](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eric-trump-donald-trump-beloved_n_601ae11bc5b6c2d891a57d74) is not capable of that. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2446 "2022-10-14T16:37:50Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > He sends a mob of thousands to murder her, her colleagues, and the Vice President, and she threatens to punch him in the nose. How are they any different? 🙄 Also, she was willing to OWN it. She didn’t want to punch Trump out and blame Antifa, Mike Pence or some anonymous staffer. She didn’t want to claim it didn’t happen or that Trump punched himself. She was willing to take the consequences and happily go to jail for it. I call that civil disobedience at its finest. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2447 "2022-10-14T21:51:29Z")
Oy. I’d say thanks for the link but my brain cells started burrowing through the back of my skull in a frantic attempt to escape by the second page and I’m still gathering what’s left of my scattered wits. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2448 "2022-10-14T22:05:37Z")
I’d commission a sculpture to commemorate the event. I’d call it “Glass Ceiling/Glass Jaw.” ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2449 "2022-10-14T22:32:54Z")
The committee doesn’t need to ask him anything; just swear him in, sit him down, and show him all the other testimony on the big screen over their heads until he snaps. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2450 "2022-10-14T22:43:02Z")
I like very much! ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2451 "2022-10-14T23:01:09Z")
Give him some Adderall first. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2452 "2022-10-15T00:18:29Z")
> [@TheTooth](#): > > The committee doesn’t need to ask him anything; just swear him in, sit him down, and show him all the other testimony on the big screen over their heads until he snaps. Except don’t show him the infamous “Josh Hawley flees” clip—he’d _enjoy_ that one. (He’s never short of malice toward others, even those who are supposedly on his side.) > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > This bit (how much and how early the SS knew about impending violence, and how much the crowd was likely to be armed) was one of my big surprises today. I didn’t want to believe how thoroughly the SS had been suborned by and/or infiltrated with Trump loyalists. Otherwise, why wouldn’t their chief have said something to the other services charged with protecting the Capitol? It’s appalling–as is the apparent DOD blocking of National Guard help at the Capitol, presumably under orders from Trump (conveyed by someone else, probably. Meadows, at a guess). None of this is the focus of the Jan 6 Committee, understandably–they had their hands full with their mission to show Trump at the center of all the plotting. But the conduct of the Secret Service, Dept. of Defense, FBI…all this is horrifyingly in need of thorough investigation. (If the GOP regains control of Congress, obviously such investigation will never happen.) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2453 "2022-10-15T00:48:45Z")
Don’t despair. It would only delay the investigation 2 years. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2454 "2022-10-15T01:32:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I honestly thought it was parody. Glenn Kirschner discusses Trumps response. It IS funny. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/geU02iMTVxw/maxresdefault.jpg "J6 committee subpoenas Trump, and he responds with a letter that is . . . sharply self-incriminating") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geU02iMTVxw) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2455 "2022-10-15T04:32:46Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > Give him some Adderall first. I thought he self-dosed. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2456 "2022-10-15T19:03:19Z")
Who can order an investigation of the Secret Service? Would that be the DOJ? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2457 "2022-10-15T20:25:09Z")
DOJ could. Homeland Security probably also has internal investigation capacity. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2458 "2022-10-15T20:25:37Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Who can order an investigation of the Secret Service? It might be the [United States House Committee on Oversight and Reform](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Oversight_and_Reform). Especially since that would involve one branch investigating another rather than the Executive investigating itself. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2459 "2022-10-15T20:38:31Z")
The SS, Treasury, Homeland Security are all part of the Executive Branch, so Biden could easily order such an investigation. So could Garland. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2460 "2022-10-15T20:45:01Z")
I was just wondering if it might be better optics for the Legislature to do it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2461 "2022-10-15T20:52:39Z")
Maybe, but we want a complete and intense investigation. Better to leave it to the pros. A lot of them are _pissed_ at what they rightly see as an act of betrayal. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2462 "2022-10-15T21:31:55Z")
As long as pissed-ness overrides loyalty to each other in the case of, say, the SS investigating itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=122) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=124)