# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 130
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2583 "2022-12-19T23:11:25Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > …I wouldn’t necessarily take their word that that’s their true motivation. This is always worth remembering when dealing with anyone defending Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2584 "2022-12-19T23:12:18Z")
I can already picture the conversation when a Republican trots out the standard narrative in response to today’s events: MAGAt: It’s nothing but a partisan witchhunt! Me: Do you think so? Which evidence that the committee reviewed do you disagree with? MAGAt: I didn’t watch it, because it’s nothing but a partisan witchhunt! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2585 "2022-12-19T23:14:50Z")
😀 “That stuff Trump’s daughter said! She’s known to come from a family of total fucking liars!” ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2586 "2022-12-19T23:21:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Which Republicans feel is political, because their guy breaks the law a lot. I’ve never understood the “it’s political” argument. They’re politicians. Nearly everything they do is inherently political. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2587 "2022-12-19T23:25:52Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > They’re politicians. Nearly everything they do is inherently political. Um, no. EVERYTHING Republicans do is to try to get re-elected and enrich themselves. That’s it. Nothing more. Then they all need to find good attorneys. Most of them are failing badly. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2588 "2022-12-19T23:33:51Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > My only question is whether they’re going to give Trump and others one last holiday with the family. (I hope not, but probably.) LOL. Right after hell announces its third skating marathon. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2589 "2022-12-19T23:37:51Z")
For those who are wondering who Kenneth Chesebro is and why he was specifically named as one who should be indicted in the Committee’s summary, here is a gift article that explains his role in the fake electors scheme: > **[Lawyers Group Asks Court to Punish an Author of Trump Electors Scheme](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/us/politics/kenneth-chesebro-trump-fake-electors.html?unlocked_article_code=lGaeUPt1xSBnVVNE0EOpyBzNfY9929Kuly-eTly8wisYnkL7M7ntT9cXCK3RA7qzAHiQIqsruzif9LQdKCv-tEksFCdVz1BkD8uuZY1F-p8w19pbtuaTkCczVcuh0Ht5rbjtV9hUJ8F-XNUVUXT92uM16T1NnZXY9Q3NnrtAtUiyR5OrbII0a4Cj1MtoG8ZLNPqjY4pcqwJPCAmD2vy8KNL1Nb7Ovig1p6nZKPKRGdg5k6fov-adBsj7T03a5YP-nM6idY-MpKqGDosEWTGfKulOp6cAFk1rjALPMQ3xvJW0HieFNBQvlqiiHHuGfopKvv9t6E9WP-rIQ6qGmmchOUKHMcyG55nVAvpOxLxMt3PHiVs&smid=share-url)** > > An ethics complaint in New York against Kenneth Chesebro is the latest example of legal troubles for lawyers who helped Donald J. Trump try to overturn the 2020 election. I didn’t know who he was and I found this from last October. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2590 "2022-12-20T00:10:14Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Kenneth Chesebro Oh please, oh please tell me that his name is pronounced “cheese bro”. It sounds like a made up name for a sketch about Trump. “This is Donald’s friend, the cheese bro.” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2591 "2022-12-20T00:11:06Z")
LOL, I thought it, too, but I’ve most commonly heard it pronounced “chez-bro.” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2592 "2022-12-20T00:21:32Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > 1. Chesebro Yeah, when I first saw that, I though you were joshin’. Like, having fun with buddy’s quote. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2593 "2022-12-20T01:38:46Z")
Do these criminal referrals “really” matter? Not in any procedural or legal sense. Similarly, it didn’t “really” matter whether the Mueller report included a closing paragraph explicitly summarizing its findings as “Trump is guilty of a bunch of crimes, and he should definitely be impeached”. But in retrospect it would probably have been better if it had. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2594 "2022-12-20T01:54:59Z")
When Trump was in office and sane people wondered if everyone was just going to act like nothing was wrong here, that was unreal. Bad times, crazy times. That “adults in the room” have stated publicly that Trump and his lying fucking bullshit was wrong, and in their collective opinion, criminal, matters a lot to me. Even if nothing comes from it. Just knowing that not everyone kept their fucking mouth shut. For the history books, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2595 "2022-12-20T02:32:15Z")
What is amazing is how many lawyers have put their licenses on the line. The witness tampering by lawyers is mind boggling. Just from this intro material there are many lawyers that are going to need much better lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2596 "2022-12-20T02:54:09Z")
In addition to the J6 committee giving the DOJ political cover for charging Trump, I would like to note that the American voter _also_ gave the DOJ political cover by overwhelmingly rejecting election denier candidates last month. This isn’t supposed to matter, of course, but it does. It would be _much_ harder to do this had the Red Wave actually occurred. With the American voters rejecting election denial combined with our representatives forwarding this recommendation to the DOJ, We, the People have done our jobs. It is now time for the DOJ to do theirs. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2597 "2022-12-20T03:01:41Z")
Remember Michael Luttig, the esteemed conservative Republican legal scholar that testified about how Eastman’s legal theories were bullshit? I’m not putting that MF in the heroes column, because he’s quite possibly the reason Trump wasn’t impeached. > **[Opinion | Once Trump leaves office, the Senate can’t hold an impeachment trial](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/12/once-trump-leaves-office-senate-cant-hold-an-impeachment-trial/)** > > The Constitution only allows for the impeachment trial of a sitting president, not a former president. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2598 "2022-12-20T03:01:46Z")
Colbert compared Jack Smith to General Zod and I’m okay with that. [![](https://www.syracuse.com/resizer/mxFk8z53JO_8JZST2aX7SfjHE5Y=/1280x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/OSKHQSYUWRGVDJZ3WQHC4ESSSQ.jpg) ](https://www.syracuse.com/resizer/mxFk8z53JO_8JZST2aX7SfjHE5Y=/1280x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/OSKHQSYUWRGVDJZ3WQHC4ESSSQ.jpg) Zod got stuff done. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2599 "2022-12-20T03:12:36Z")
Shit. Just realized… If Donald Trump sells NFT’s of his arrest, trial, conviction, and imprisonment, I may actually go broke. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2600 "2022-12-20T03:23:16Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > With the American voters rejecting election denial combined with our representatives forwarding this recommendation to the DOJ, We, the People have done our jobs. > > It is now time for the DOJ to do theirs. Well said. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2601 "2022-12-20T03:28:05Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > With the American voters rejecting election denial combined with our representatives forwarding this recommendation to the DOJ, We, the People have done our jobs. In my view, the failure of the red wave was the first real indication we had that the January 6th Committee had done theirs. I believe it was their concerted efforts, against immense opposition from within their own ranks of Congress, that did more to persuade the American people what we are truly facing and how close we came to losing our democracy. I also believe that our job, meaning that of the American people, is far from done. Our democracy remains in peril. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2602 "2022-12-20T03:46:52Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > What about the executive summary to the executive summary? (Gift link) > **[Key Findings From the Jan. 6 Committee’s Report, Annotated](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/19/us/politics/jan-6-committee-key-findings.html?unlocked_article_code=Lu4awrt0Q_YWqu__vze8RjGkDh8EE1IXMpOwIhI6pJXLNFuwX4nj5tgIBHTA1n1KWDEQ9WRSBQZ9P9I0V3jiqHu9hTJ-rLScn67a8s9fTv1AyTeOwHj5LvPHb_Lv1AR8Pr5_ygkx8uZ2iD-_a2c0HdHwh28Ervb6aOelr3tx6fkWU0qpCeNRUFqnuCp4SQcl5Gzr8IJmbsw1oufnqLhXpAjQryDDQ6dp6O-ylwVCLHb6mwqiEn7UVrNQW1kkwqFWLCfiNi2meYg9UfIiLwGpnv0rHQEdNEAEGCyTtiMOJrN0Px3YvsgW2b6anHKCCp5cSXPrRURofJkVV00ZjUgMfyouIICmgAJm-K8&smid=share-url)** > > The panel included 17 specific findings in the executive summary of its final report. > _The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol outlined 17 specific findings on Monday in the executive summary of its final report. Here are the findings, with additional context._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=129) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=131)