# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2663 "2022-12-22T03:48:36Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Posts that make me laugh out loud. 😃

_bows_ I’ll be here all week. Tip your waitdroid, and try the nerf!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2664 "2022-12-22T03:49:49Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Is that the official report of the GOP, or just five morons?

I’m afraid you’ll have to be more specific.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2665 "2022-12-22T04:56:36Z")

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Now _that_ made me lol!

Deth, it’s five morons.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2666 "2022-12-22T06:23:03Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> How does Trump attract so many bad lawyers to do his bidding?

Maybe because, as bad lawyers, they legitimately can’t find enough work otherwise?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2667 "2022-12-22T07:05:33Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> About half the people out there are below average at anything resembling reasoning, comprehension, literacy, and self-reflection.

I just think of a variation of an old joke… What do you call the guy who completed the bar exam with the lowest possible passing score? A lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2668 "2022-12-22T07:42:37Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Maybe because, as bad lawyers, they legitimately can’t find enough work otherwise?

I’d suppose that they can find work, but they see Trump as a gateway to higher fees: their webpage bio might say, “Joe Bloggs Esq. represented former President Trump before the Supreme Court.” Or the federal courts, or the Fifth Circuit, or whatever. Anyway, being able to brag like that would mean higher per-hour fees. Never mind if the lawyer was successful in the matter or not, it seems to me that a certain number of Americans would gladly pay a lawyer who represented Trump, even unsuccessfully, to represent and advise them with their legal problems.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I just think of a variation of an old joke… What do you call the guy who completed the bar exam with the lowest possible passing score? A lawyer.

I recall my Civil Procedure professor at law school, who started every lecture with a lawyer joke. That was one of them.

That professor now sits on the Supreme Court of Canada.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2669 "2022-12-22T16:36:15Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I just think of a variation of an old joke… What do you call the guy who completed the bar exam with the lowest possible passing score? A lawyer.

Or, “Your Honor.”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2670 "2022-12-22T19:55:46Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Now _that_ made me lol!
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> Deth, it’s five morons.

Yep, I got a grin from that also.

That is what I thought. Parts of the GOP are actually starting to get away from trumpism.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2671 "2022-12-22T20:12:36Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> Thirded. I no longer work for the Yavapai County elections department, but many of the folks I knew back then are still there and several of them are now working for the Maricopa elections department. I might not have liked their politics, but I will defend their integrity against all comers.

Here is where the utter disloyalty that the former guy displayed proved advantageous. Because not only are poll workers self-selecting for interest in the process, they are also well aware that there are severe personal consequences for trying to thwart an election, and that there would be no pardons forthcoming if they tried to find bogus inconsistencies in order to throw the election results into tumult. If, on the other hand, he had been well-known as having a vestige of personal honor and mutual responsibility to those to partook in his schemes, that might have made a difference in the minds of some wavering elections people and/or governors.

EDIT: and of course if you personally attack those nominally on your side, they aren’t just going to shrug and say “oh, my bad, I guess the election was bogus after all” once you’ve insulted their professional and personal integrity.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
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The January 6th Committee final report is now officially released.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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845pp! Catchy titles.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2674 "2022-12-23T03:56:35Z")

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Link to report (PDF):

[https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/Report\_FinalReport\_Jan6SelectCommittee.pdf](https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/Report_FinalReport_Jan6SelectCommittee.pdf)

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Thank you! I’m already reading it, thanks to your post.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
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I’ve been reading for a bit. On pg.27.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
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Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony about her testimony is really long….138 pages, but I read it all, it’s a novella about a young woman who sold her soul to TrumpWorld, had serious second thoughts and engineered her escape from the cult. I highly recommend it.

[https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23506040-cassidy-hutchinson-january-6-transcript-september-14-2022](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23506040-cassidy-hutchinson-january-6-transcript-september-14-2022)

Her TrumpWorld lawyer insisted that it wasn’t perjury to say “I don’t recall” even if you had a complete and perfect recollection because “they don’t know what you know”. And she was good at not playing along with the mob boss language and making them spell thing out for her.

And the entirety of TrumpWorld seemed terrified that she’d do ……well, what she ended up doing, so prominent conservatives kept dangling future possible jobs and offering to help her out in other ways, which implied money, although they never made that explicit and she never pushed it,

Here’s one short excerpt about her first testimony that is totally unsurprising

_And it wasn’t just that I had Stephan (her lawyer) sitting next to me, it felt like I had Trump looking over my shoulder. Because I knew in some fashion it would get back to him if I said anything he would find disloyal. And the prospect of that genuinely scared me. You know, I’d seen this world ruin people’s lives or try to ruin people’s lives. I’d seen how vicious they can be._

And there’s a couple of semi-bombshells, at least to me - about Jan 6th itself towards the end……apparently she was instructed to make a plan for transporting Trump to the Capitol on Jan 6th (she made a few CYA calls but that’s all), and she overheard Meadows the night before on the phone discussing the probabilities of successfully “pulling it off”. Of course, he never explicitly said what they were pulling off. But I think I can guess.

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Also, there’s how Hutchinson’s attorney describes NY Times reporter Maggie Haberman as being “on our side”.

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Christmas is good this year! First the tax returns and now this! I was hoping for an indictment or two as well, but there’s always tomorrow.

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I hear that’s what Jesus wanted for his birthday this year.

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(and a fluffy pair of socks)

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/2681 "2022-12-23T04:25:24Z")

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I believe Cassidy came close to selling her soul, her discussion with her mother was quite telling.

The trump world lawyer she had at first is in a titanic boat load of trouble.

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The Cassidy Hutchinson’s lawyer advice puts a different light on those Iran/Contra hearings where not remembering was the answer of the day.

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