# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/721 "2022-06-23T20:02:03Z")

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Adam Kinzinger pointed out early in today’s hearings his conviction that he could not send soldiers into harm’s way while simultaneously abrogating his oath and duties simply because he might lose his job.

I have no idea if that’s going to get through to 250 Republican congresscritters and untold numbers of other officeholders at the state and local levels, but it was an impressive display of shade and it’s a shame this will be his last term in Congress.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/722 "2022-06-23T20:14:28Z")

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Interesting info about Holder and this surprise documentary:

> <https://twitter.com/NorahODonnell/status/1540055780891705345?t=F4tZQonv-Vk3aKLp7iLkqA&s=19>

Holder is interviewed on CBS News tonight where he makes the above claims. Says no one in the Trump family has seen a frame of the footage and he also talked to Trump, twice, after the Insurrection, saying Trump’s responses were ‘staggering’.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/723 "2022-06-23T20:22:19Z")

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While we’re in recess, does it strike anyone as odd that the name cards say (for example) “Honorable Rosen”? Shouldn’t it be “Hon. Mr. Rosen”?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/724 "2022-06-23T20:24:18Z")

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Ron Johnson: I’m on the phone here.  
Reporter: Senator, that’s a calculator.

“Jeffrey Clark’s never been in front of a grand jury.” Well, that may be coming.

And did I just see Sean Penn sitting with the cops?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/725 "2022-06-23T20:25:27Z")

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You did. He was engaged in an animated discussion with Michael Fanone before the hearings got underway. Some of the pool cameras seemed fixated on it.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/726 "2022-06-23T20:44:44Z")

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On the lighter side, I see Fred Ward is among the witnesses.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/727 "2022-06-23T20:45:19Z")

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> [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](#):
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> If Trump genuinely believed that there were 100,000 valid votes for him in GA that hadn’t been counted by the corrupt system, then when he told the guy to “find 11,788 votes” (or whatever number) then he wasn’t telling him to make up votes but to find the valid ones which had been tossed out.

Er, no. A general request to investigate alleged problems in the system would suggest a mindset of legitmate doubt about the accurate tallying of the vote. A request to come up with the specific number of votes required to win suggests a mindset of trying to game the system to get that result.  
That’s the whole point of the committee playing the audio of Trump doing the latter.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/728 "2022-06-23T21:29:55Z")

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I was watching the committee and then turned on the radio (PBS).Listening to it, there’s a delay between the television and radio-I wonder why?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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Pardon beggers can’t be election choosers…

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/730 "2022-06-23T21:37:04Z")

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That happens all the time with TV/Radio. I put the Chicago Bears games on the TV, but the sound comes from the radio, and it never synchs up. Just chalk it up to a life lesson about what it means when a broadcaster tells you you’re getting something “Live”. It’s like, Live, but with a tolerance on the exact timing.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/731 "2022-06-23T21:37:13Z")

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Recently-deceased actor Fred Ward?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/732 "2022-06-23T21:38:11Z")

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I liked the part where Richard Donoghue related a conversation with Trump, where Trump said ‘People are saying I should get rid of you.’ It sounded like Donoghue basically told him, ‘Go ahead. The department isn’t going to change just because you get rid of me.’

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
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Looked like him to me.

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In that case, maybe he’s Remo Williams in real life too. (Fakes his death to become a super-powered secret agent.)

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In case you missed it, here’s the list of GOPers who asked for a pre-emptive pardon: Mo Brooks, Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs, Louis Gohmert, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Scott Perry.

Jim Jordan didn’t explicitly ask for a pardon, but did enquire as to whether pardons were being discussed.

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Jim Jordan didn’t explicitly ask for a pardon, but did enquire as to whether pardons were being discussed.

I’m picturing that Dave Chappelle meme that the kids toss around - “Y’all got any of those… pardons… left?” {or something to that effect}

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/737 "2022-06-23T22:19:37Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Mo Brooks

I don’t know what is wrong with my brain, but I every time I read that name I picture him as [Mo Rocca](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Mo_Rocca_2002.jpg). Then I feel bad, because it is such a tremendous disservice to Mr. Rocca.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/738 "2022-06-23T22:57:17Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Holder…Says no one in the Trump family has seen a frame of the footage and he also talked to Trump, twice, after the Insurrection, saying Trump’s responses were ‘staggering’.

Methinks his documentary will be well received. (The committee, of course, has the raw footage).

> [@](#):
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> “Alex Holder’s _Unprecedented_ three-part docuseries about the 2020 election will be released on Discovery+ later this summer,” a Discovery+ spokesperson said in a statement to _The Hollywood Reporter_ on Wednesday. The streamer touts that the series features “never-before-seen footage of the Trump family on the campaign trail and their reactions to the outcome of the election” and offers “intimate and unprecedented interviews with Trump, his family and others who were in the White House.” No release date was provided.

> **[Discovery+ Nabs Rights to Alex Holder’s Trump 2020 Election Footage Documentary](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/discovery-stream-unprecedented-docuseries-alex-holder-1235170494/amp/)**
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> The streamer has bought 'Unprecedented,' a three-part series focused on the 2020 election, footage of which has been subpoenaed in hearings about the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/739 "2022-06-23T22:58:55Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> I don’t know what is wrong with my brain, but I every time I read that name I picture him as [Mo Rocca](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Mo_Rocca_2002.jpg).

I read it as Mel Brooks. That’s even worse.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/740 "2022-06-23T23:00:41Z")

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Who is that curly-haired guy sitting right behind Kinzinger? He’s been in that same seat for all the hearings. Who are _all_ those people in the back row of seats up there?

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