# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/761 "2022-06-24T01:22:37Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > My big take-away from today is that Jeff Clark needs to be run out of town on a rail. A true believer in every stupid election CT out there, incompetent, insubordinate, and knowingly trying to undercut his bosses, despite being told explicitly that what he was doing was both a really bad idea, and illegal. He was on Tucker Carlson tonight where they both bemoaned the Stalinist Biden government for its jack-booted persecution of this completely innocent patriot. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/762 "2022-06-24T01:38:53Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > He was on Tucker Carlson tonight where they both bemoaned the Stalinist Biden government for its jack-booted persecution of this completely innocent patriot. I was just about to ask: It feels like the committee’s findings are irrefutable. No one in the right wing media is even trying to defend Trump’s actions; all they can do is shout “partisan witch hunt” and “political theater” and then change the subject. Someone should go take one for the team and confirm. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/763 "2022-06-24T01:47:00Z")
I can only take it in small doses. I came across this channel-surfing news during dinner. But rest assured, as goes Carlson, so goes MAGAts. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/764 "2022-06-24T02:05:00Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Perhaps, just perhaps, this will be akin to the Nixon tapes. Well, I’m surprised that there was no whiff of these videos until yesterday. A lot of people kept their mouths closed. I hope there’s something interesting there. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/765 "2022-06-24T02:15:40Z")
Hm, “partisan witch hunt” implies/supposes “he did nothing wrong” to me. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/766 "2022-06-24T02:24:24Z")
CNN showed some clips of the documentary today. Mind, these were from the finished documentary; it was obvious that the clips had gone through post-production, editing, and so on. Anyway, they were quite interesting. What would be more interesting, I think, would be the raw footage, and what ended up not being included in the finished product. It might not have been interesting enough to be included in the finished documentary, according to the filmmaker, but it could prove to be very interesting to the Committee. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/767 "2022-06-24T02:28:58Z")
Ron Johnson, who first said that he had no idea about an alternate slate of electors, then blamed it on one of his staff members, then tried to avoid an interview by pretending to take a non-existent phone call, now says that the alternate electors came from Rep. Mike Kelly’s office. > **[GOP Sen. Ron Johnson says the fake electors he tried to give Pence on January...](https://news.yahoo.com/gop-sen-ron-johnson-says-213556007.html)** > > Johnson made the remarks in a radio interview Thursday. He's insisted since Tuesday that his attempt to hand off the fake electors is a "non-story." ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/768 "2022-06-24T02:39:32Z")
Man all these guys are judo masters at throwing each under the buses. Sensei Don has taught them well. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/769 "2022-06-24T03:18:41Z")
You live in Pennsylvania, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/770 "2022-06-24T03:27:56Z")
Sounds like someone who is afraid of getting into trouble. And yes, I too want more of the intra-party finger pointing. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/771 "2022-06-24T04:32:08Z")
The film maker was interviewed by don lemon tonight. Poor fellow now has a security detail. He went from barely known to needing security in one day. Crazy times. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/772 "2022-06-24T04:42:57Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The blanket pardon would have preemptively exonerated the 147 Republicans who voted against the certification of President Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory… On its face, this makes no sense. Unless they took bribes to vote a certain way, it’s not a crime for Congressmen to vote in any way they want. And then it’s the bribe that’s the crime, not the vote. So either they did something else wrong or Mo Brooks has no clue. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/773 "2022-06-24T04:54:11Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > So either they did something else wrong or Mo Brooks has no clue. The latter pretty much goes without saying, and the former is strongly indicated as well, not particularly for trying to overthrow US democracy but in general terms of being terrible people. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/774 "2022-06-24T04:56:22Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Poor fellow now has a security detail. He went from barely known to needing security in one day. > > Crazy times. And if the orange shit-stain is indicted, the potential for violence by his acolytes will get dialed up to 11, and he’ll be cheerleading it, just as he did the Jan 6 insurrection. His only morality is the need for adulation and self-preservation. > [@dtilque](#): > > So either they did something else wrong or Mo Brooks has no clue. Why does it have to be “either or”? Clueless and criminal are not mutually exclusive, and in fact quite often co-exist (e.g.- aforementioned orange shit-stain). ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/775 "2022-06-24T05:17:38Z")
Pro Tips: They, almost, never start on time. They, almost, never finish on time. Half-hour breaks, usually, last upward of two hours. * * * When I would ~~video tape~~ DVR hearings I’d always set the maximum overtime extension my DVR would allow and set up to record the next program too. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/776 "2022-06-24T05:25:37Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Pro Tips: > They, almost, never start on time. > They, almost, never finish on time. > Half-hour breaks, usually, last upward of two hours. These public J6 hearings have done remarkably well at starting right on time, and keeping to schedule. I’ve been watching via PBS, where the commentators have commentated on that several times. * * * > [@wolfpup](#): > > Why does it have to be “either or”? Clueless and criminal are not mutually exclusive, The English construct “either \_\_\_\_\_ or \_\_\_\_\_” has a different meaning in formal logic, versus everyday colloquial usage. In colloquial usage, it means “one or the other but not both”. In formal logic, it means “one or the other _or both_”. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/777 "2022-06-24T05:30:58Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > He [Jeff Clark] was on Tucker Carlson tonight where they both bemoaned the Stalinist Biden government for its jack-booted persecution of this completely innocent patriot. One would think his lawyers would be advising him to keep a low profile for a while and _keep his big mouf shut_. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/778 "2022-06-24T07:37:50Z")
How do you pronounce xor? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/779 "2022-06-24T07:53:39Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > How do you pronounce xor?   In natural language, it’s pronounced “or”. Which is what, in natural language, it means. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/780 "2022-06-24T10:16:52Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > The blanket pardon would have preemptively exonerated the 147 Republicans who voted against the certification of President Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory… > > On its face, this makes no sense. Unless they took bribes to vote a certain way, it’s not a crime for Congressmen to vote in any way they want. The only way it makes sense is if their votes were pledged in advance as part of the larger conspiracy to steal the election (and Mo Brooks knows it). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=40)