# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/821 "2022-06-27T17:27:29Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > New hearing scheduled on 24 hours’ notice for tomorrow, June 28th, at 1:00 p.m. EDT. Sounds pretty explosive, from what’s being speculated about on the news. Yikes! I hadn’t seen anything about that yet. Thanks for the heads-up. (Seems like I get all my news right here on the Dope these days.) ETA: That must mean they were very quick to put together an organized, scripted presentation (assuming they did), as all the public hearings to date have been. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/822 "2022-06-27T17:29:58Z")
It was literally just announced. It’s apparently based on new evidence they’ve received during the recess. According to speculation by those presumably “in the know,” it will have to be something pretty big for the Committee to interrupt the _Roe v. Wade_ news cycle and schedule a hearing shortly before a 3-day weekend. I was going to run some errands in town tomorrow, but I think I’ll switch that up with Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/823 "2022-06-27T17:39:47Z")
And I was going to run some errands TODAY (Monday), which I will now be very sure to get done TODAY. Here’s the story at Raw Story (to the extent that Raw Story actually ever has a story): > **['This signals urgency': Jan. 6 committee announces surprise hearing for Tuesday](https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-house-select-committee/)** > > The House select committee has announced it is holding another public hearing this Tuesday.The panel has already held five hearings delving into Donald Trump's role in carrying out the Jan. 6 insurrection, with the most recent one covering his... > Here’s an especially interesting response to the above tweet: > (In case you don’t or can’t see the above tweet: It’s a GIF of two hands holding two knives, sharpening them against each other. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/824 "2022-06-27T17:44:24Z")
This documentary footage reminds me of the Watergate tapes. Basically, the president dooms himself by allowing himself to be recorded breaking the law. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/825 "2022-06-27T17:44:39Z")
> **[Meadows Aide to Testify Before Jan. 6 Panel at Surprise Hearing](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-jan-6-hearing.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DLDmwdiPkORJCH_0bRZKF4INk62XHFAd9MOaUuQvM0zvNaOwYlbTiUlaa-ucZPJTQp-8X0V3kq3pnJUPdkr2fgP2DgcqJxlOzn-k_Zb2f1C6CI1WkldA409pNudV2o23EY1-ySRL4Or9p91fklB5F9VG1AMHHM56-0fk04bNaWbRjc6R00XPVZX1zQm92a7rECdGZCGA6MDSM_sStntoQqaJ5AN73_LhUgZMP7nb4Ub2RtJ4qvDJQ2LJPGRFXFA-wSGSGXls4gQBvMUw)** > > Cassidy Hutchinson, who has provided the committee with important testimony behind closed doors, is expected to testify publicly on Tuesday afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/826 "2022-06-27T17:46:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > This documentary footage reminds me of the Watergate tapes. Basically, the president dooms himself by allowing himself to be recorded breaking the law. Well, no politician is ever going to make THAT mistake again. (Ya think?) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/827 "2022-06-27T17:48:04Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > (In case you don’t or can’t see the above tweet: It’s a GIF of > > . That’s hilarious. 😃 * * * I do suspect it’s something very incriminating from the Holder tapes. Wouldn’t that be extraordinary? And I will say again, at the risk of endless repetition, this is so much worse than Watergate. Watergate was a game of Pinochle compared to what Trump and his party of traitorous insurrectionists tried to pull. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/828 "2022-06-27T18:07:47Z")
This could be worth popping corn over. They wouldn’t do this unless they’ve got something really juicy. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/829 "2022-06-27T18:08:09Z")
wow!! this is really wild… i’m thinking something from the videos or perhaps something with thomas or meadows. def. laying in some snacks. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/830 "2022-06-27T18:14:07Z")
There ought to be a way we could monetize these threads. The discussion and analysis is so much more…focused and critical (in the logic sense, not the mom sense.) I’ll be getting most of my news from you people. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/831 "2022-06-27T18:17:55Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > And I will say again, at the risk of endless repetition, this is so much worse than Watergate. Watergate was a game of Pinochle compared to what Trump and his party of traitorous insurrectionists tried to pull. If you took Watergate, put it in modern times, and had Trump in the role of Nixon, I feel like Trump would get away with it. It takes something far worse before he actually faces consequences. That’s the sad state of affairs today. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/832 "2022-06-27T18:19:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > This could be worth popping corn over. They wouldn’t do this unless they’ve got something really juicy. > [@rocking\_chair](#): > > wow!! this is really wild… i’m thinking something from the videos or perhaps something with thomas or meadows. It is risky, though. If they get everyone sat up in their seats like we all are and then they don’t deliver something jaw-dropping, their momentum will be lost. I do expect they understand this. I hope. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/833 "2022-06-27T18:22:38Z")
Guys like Cheney the Elder and and others of that era have said repeatedly (and I’m sure you’ve heard it) that if they had something like Fox “News” back in the days of Watergate, Nixon wouldn’t have been forced to resign. That’s absolutely true. It’s why I intend to put as much effort as I can into delegitimizing Fox and urging my congressional representatives to lobby the White House to remove them from press-credentialed status. They are not a news organization and they shouldn’t be treated as one. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/834 "2022-06-27T18:24:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you took Watergate, put it in modern times, and had Trump in the role of Nixon, I feel like Trump would get away with it. I fear you’re right. Even with Watergate, it wasn’t all that close to unanimous. The House committee vote was only 27-11 to send articles to the floor and there were at least a dozen Senators who would never have voted to convict had it gone to a full impeachment trial. I can’t imagine there’s even be a dozen Republican Senators today who would have even voted to convict, much less the required number, even with direct evidence of malfeasance. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/835 "2022-06-27T18:26:59Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’ll be getting most of my news from you people. I said a similar thing in the Ukraine thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/836 "2022-06-27T18:31:09Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’ll be getting most of my news from you people. I follow it here, and also expect there will be a liveblog at [https://www.wonkette.com/](https://www.wonkette.com/) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/837 "2022-06-27T18:31:34Z")
While we’re still on hiatus … ISTM that another substantive difference between Watergate and 1/6 was the clandestine nature of the Watergate break-in and the definitional cover-up that followed. Which created significant shock value and appearance of guilt as the revelations occurred. Which – as was so typical for Trump – hits a national audience differently from that which occurs before our very eyes, sometimes conveying the sense that it simply _cannot_ be illegal (see: hiding in plain sight). In that sense, it was akin to the Zelenskyy extortion (“Read the transcripts !”). Hidden in plain sight inured to that POS’s benefit (without regard to the Republican Senate’s refusal to convict). The Fox thing is huge, to be sure. So is the current crop of Rs who inviolably put party before country. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/838 "2022-06-27T18:36:01Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you took Watergate, put it in modern times, and had Trump in the role of Nixon, I feel like Trump would get away with it. It takes something far worse before he actually faces consequences. > > That’s the sad state of affairs today. Fox News would publish the enemies list, and loyal viewers would be issuing death threats to them. The Justice Dept. would have investigated the Democrats for “stealing the wiretaps found in their offices” G. Gordon Liddy would have been given the presidential medal of honor The Watergate burglers themselves would have run for Congress and won. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/839 "2022-06-27T18:39:57Z")
What could it be? There is talk of a flipper - maybe Mark Meadows? > **[Jan. 6 committee announces surprise hearing for Tuesday on new evidence](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/27/jan-6-committee-announces-surprise-hearing-for-tuesday-on-new-evidence.html)** > > The last hearing focused on how former President Donald Trump pressured the DOJ to help him overturn his loss to President Joe Biden in the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/840 "2022-06-27T18:42:06Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > What could it be? There is talk of a flipper - maybe Mark Meadows? That would be seismic. Meadows would need to have been granted some sweet immunity from DOJ to induce it, because he has (had?) a lot of legal exposure himself. A _lot_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=43)