# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/861 "2022-06-27T21:55:50Z")
CNN is reporting that the feds recently seized John Eastman’s cell phone: > **[John Eastman searched and had phone seized by federal agents last week, he...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/politics/john-eastman-search-phone-january-6/index.html)** > > FBI seized the phone of former President Donald Trump's election attorney John Eastman last week, according to a new court filing from the conservative lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/862 "2022-06-27T22:06:21Z")
Huh. This is in addition to the executed search warrant last week of Jeffrey Clark’s place where they seized all his electronics. For those who don’t know how this works, it means that the FBI had to present sufficient evidence to a federal judge to persuade that judge it is more likely than not that evidence of crimes exist that are within the scope of the warrant(s) they are seeking. If they can’t present such evidence, no warrant. They got their warrants. Which also means the DOJ has been working their cases as I believed they would – from the bottom up. We’re now up to the ‘Lieutenants’ layer of Trump corruption. The ones in direct and regular contact with Trump. DOJ is still squeezing from the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/863 "2022-06-27T22:37:52Z")
So the seizure of Eastman’s phone and Clark’s records and electronics took place last Thursday. These searches were done by the DOJ. Would there be enough time for the DOJ to go over all the records seized, and get any pertinent information over to the Jan 6 committee by today? I suspect not. I think there are even more shoes to drop, once Eastman and Clark’s records are gone over with a fine toothed comb. Agree though that the DOJ is working their way up the ladder, to Trump’s lieutenants. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/864 "2022-06-27T22:42:03Z")
The Committee and DOJ/FBI (the FBI is the law enforcement arm of the DOJ) aren’t meant to be working together. It is appropriate for them to share information if it has bearing on the tasks of each, but I doubt DOJ has shared any information with the Committee at this point. They will want to protect the integrity and secrecy of their investigations. _This is normal_. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/865 "2022-06-28T00:18:39Z")
If it’s a flipped consiglieri, I hope they got a taped disposition. I don’t want cold feet [someone getting to the flipper or family] or a Jack Ruby situation. [Nah Steve, never happen, guards would prevent anything from going down] ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/866 "2022-06-28T00:24:15Z")
Hearing that it’s neither Pence nor Cippilone. There is also this… > ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/867 "2022-06-28T00:45:55Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > If it’s a flipped consiglieri, I hope they got a taped disposition. I don’t want cold feet [someone getting to the flipper or family] or a Jack Ruby situation. [Nah Steve, never happen, guards would prevent anything from going down] You may be on to something. Here is what the Washington found regarding why the nature of the surprise hearing is being kept secret (gift link) > **[Jan. 6 committee announces surprise Tuesday hearing, offers few details](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/06/27/jan-6-committee-announces-surprise-tuesday-hearing-offers-few-details/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjEyNzYwNDUiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjU2Mzc3MDIyLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjU3NTg2NjIyLCJpYXQiOjE2NTYzNzcwMjIsImp0aSI6ImFlMTVjYzkzLWUxN2QtNDUzYS1hNTJlLTQxYjAxYzViMjk2NiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb25hbC1zZWN1cml0eS8yMDIyLzA2LzI3L2phbi02LWNvbW1pdHRlZS1hbm5vdW5jZXMtc3VycHJpc2UtdHVlc2RheS1oZWFyaW5nLW9mZmVycy1mZXctZGV0YWlscy8ifQ.46zknI2UjhKHUtyyrx5BWz0pi-E2jvVmSdNXGYZQ-9E&itid=gfta)** > > The announcement was shrouded in secrecy, with even committee staff kept out of the loop. > The news was so closely guarded that even some senior committee staff and aides to lawmakers were kept out of the loop as of Monday afternoon. Three people familiar with the investigation said that the secrecy is in part due to credible security threats to a witness. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/868 "2022-06-28T00:50:06Z")
Thanks for sharing the gift link. Based on reading that article, it’s hard to think it’s anyone but Cipollone. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/869 "2022-06-28T00:50:55Z")
An anonymous witness wearing a full ski mask and electronically altered voice? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/870 "2022-06-28T00:52:41Z")
Credible threats of harm are pretty awful. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/871 "2022-06-28T00:55:09Z")
Maybe the Don will bring in the witness’ brother to sit in the gallery during the testimony. I’ve heard that the rationale for rushing the hearing is to get it in before the witness changes his/her mind. I think we’ve got some must-see tv tomorrow. I’ll be very cross if I’m called into a meeting during this. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/872 "2022-06-28T00:55:45Z")
I’m thinking Mo Brooks, there is reporting that he’s agreed to testify but only publicly. It’ll be interesting, at least I’ll be able to watch this one comfortably at home without wrangling a toddler. It’s been frustrating, I generally have lots of free time but so far all the hearings have happened while I’m either traveling or babysitting. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/873 "2022-06-28T01:00:16Z")
I’ll be very surprised if it is Brooks. Every attorney knows to not put a witness on to testify publicly before they know exactly what they are going to say first by way of a deposition in private. And Mo Brooks is in no position to dictate terms to the Committee. Can’t hurt to ask, but probably a no go, Mo. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/874 "2022-06-28T01:18:02Z")
What mystifies me is the rushed nature of the unscheduled hearing. No matter what bombshell they may have discovered, why couldn’t it wait until the next scheduled session of the committee? What is it about this that makes it time sensitive? And if it doesn’t meet the dramatic expectations that are being rumoured, it will just make the committee look foolish. I don’t get it. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’ve heard that the rationale for rushing the hearing is to get it in before the witness changes his/her mind. ETA: Maybe this. I didn’t see this before. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/875 "2022-06-28T01:25:38Z")
There are a number of concerns. Barbara McQuade, a former US attorney, says this: Concern about a leak; Concern about witness tampering/witness itimidation; The witness might get cold feet; The witness is being threatened with harm which might result in the cold feet. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/876 "2022-06-28T01:30:33Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > DOJ is still squeezing from the bottom. Like toothpaste. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/877 "2022-06-28T01:30:34Z")
Wow! This sounds like stuff you might associate with the trial of a major mobster. Which I guess in a sense it is. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/878 "2022-06-28T01:40:45Z")
IMO, that’s exactly what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/879 "2022-06-28T01:42:56Z")
Thank you for sharing the link! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/880 "2022-06-28T01:46:04Z")
From June 7: > **[Top Trump White House lawyer in active talks with Jan. 6 committee to testify...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/top-trump-white-house-lawyer-active-talks-jan/story?id=85246792)** > > The House panel investigating the Jan. 6 attack is in discussions with ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone about appearing at an upcoming public hearing, sources say. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=45)