# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/901 "2022-06-28T06:17:22Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You say “showman”, I say “doddering old toddler throwing a fit and demanding attention”. Well, it wasn’t me calling him a showman. It was the RWNJs. But I like your latter characterization, and I agree with it. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/902 "2022-06-28T08:22:22Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > Wow! {granted, the link below is from June 9th} > > [Cassidy Hutchinson: Former Meadows aide may testify publicly after dropping Trump-linked attorney - CNNPolitics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-meadows-trump-january-6/index.html) > > “Hutchinson told the January 6 committee that Trump had suggested to Meadows he approved of the “hang Mike Pence” chants from rioters who stormed the US Capitol, CNN has reported.” Unless Hutchinson has audio or video of something, this is a nothing burger. At least not to call members back from their home districts. Where most of them were. This is going to be something major. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/903 "2022-06-28T10:01:54Z")
I hope it’s a good witness who supports some bombshell tape from that documentary. In my fevered dreams: Tape of the secret meeting between Trump and Putin, in English, plotting the end of America! After Ukraine, of course. Maybe, just maybe, that would wake up some of these fucking Trumpers. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/904 "2022-06-28T11:23:25Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Maybe, just maybe, that would wake up some of these fucking Trumpers. No, it wouldn’t. They would just invoke their standard mantra, “Fake News!”. Their orange hero has already assured them that everything going on in the Jan6 committee is made-up and false. There is now an entire ideology in American politics based entirely on blatant lies. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/905 "2022-06-28T11:27:19Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > You know, I have been speculating about Putin’s health - - - and I kind of wonder if upon his deathbed, he does not reveal that Trump was responding to pressure of some sort (loans, piss tape, promise of development deals, what have you), it would allow Putin to die the ‘winner’ of that particular pissing match. Or, in a more realpolitik context, deciding that the most useful thing he can get out of the Great Pumpkinhead now is to throw him under the bus in such a way as to cause maximum damage to the US body politic. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/906 "2022-06-28T12:05:49Z")
I’m pretty sure that it will be Cassidy Hutchinson, who has already casually dropped a bomb, specifically naming members of Congress seeking pre-emptive pardons. As a member of Meadows’s staff, she’s a pretty effective fly on the wall. Holder’s film footage is the next best bet. It would be awesome if Meadows is ready to sing but that may be too much to hope for. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/907 "2022-06-28T12:07:46Z")
CNN sez it’s Hutchinson. > **[Former Meadows aide will testify before January 6 committee on Tuesday,...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-former-meadows-aide-testify-january-6-committee-hearing/index.html)** > > Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and a witness to many critical events and conversations, is expected to testify publicly on Tuesday before the select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, US... ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/908 "2022-06-28T12:09:14Z")
So does this source: [https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/former-meadows-aide-cassidy-hutchinson-061427997.html?.tsrc=daily\_mail&uh\_test=1\_11](https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/former-meadows-aide-cassidy-hutchinson-061427997.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_11) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/909 "2022-06-28T12:09:14Z")
Hutchinson doesn’t sound too exciting (didn’t they already get closed-door testimony from her?), so I really hope she’s got a bombshell. Or maybe she’ll be there to corroborate and set the stage for new video evidence. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/910 "2022-06-28T12:11:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > CNN sez it’s Hutchinson. CNN is just parroting other news organizations, and it ultimately all seems to come from that one source at Punchbowl News. It may well be correct – or not, depending on how well the committee members can keep a secret. I’m less interested in who it is than in what they have to say and their ability to back it up. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/911 "2022-06-28T12:13:23Z")
Anybody familiar with Senate Sergeant at Arms, Michael Stenger? It appears he’s been murdered? Maybe suicide? Every cite I see is some right wing rag, but it’s on twitter too. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/912 "2022-06-28T12:14:24Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Regardless of where this nutjob idea came from, the fact remains that Trumpists love the idea that Trump has some surprise news that will change everything, and that he will announce at a later date. That’s why he keeps everything secret: because a leak would cause him to lose his thunder. I have to admit that the other side of this coin is how much I hope some evidence that has not been burned, flushed, shredded, or otherwise destroyed appears and gives him the comeuppance he so richly deserves!! Time after time I get my hopes up only for them to be dashed - - - - but still, I hope with all of my being that somehow, sometime, justice will catch up to this slippery piece of excrement. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/913 "2022-06-28T12:50:41Z")
I’d like to request that those of you who will be watching and commenting live show some mercy toward Dopers who are not in a position to watch by occasionally including **some** detail in your comments. Not a lot-- but something to give us an idea of what you’re reacting to. IOW instead of posting the tantalizing but unrevealing comment: _“Wow! I can’t believe he said that!”_ post: _“Wow! I can’t believe Joe Blow testified that he witnessed Trump threaten Mike Pence with a loaded gun!”_ Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/914 "2022-06-28T12:57:42Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I’m pretty sure that it will be Cassidy Hutchinson, who has already casually dropped a bomb, specifically naming members of Congress seeking pre-emptive pardons. As a member of Meadows’s staff, she’s a pretty effective fly on the wall. I think she also recently dumped her Trump-team-approved attorney and hired a lawyer on her own, so that’s a good indication she won’t be covering for anybody. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/915 "2022-06-28T13:21:49Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Or, in a more realpolitik context, deciding that the most useful thing he can get out of the Great Pumpkinhead now is to throw him under the bus in such a way as to cause maximum damage to the US body politic. As long as it happens, any motivation will work for me! (And I really do suspect there is some truth to the idea. Not that Putin would reveal it, but that it was true.) ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/916 "2022-06-28T13:31:14Z")
ISTM that the discussion of who might have flipped, in the context of today’s mystery guest, is conflating the House Committee with the DOJ. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/917 "2022-06-28T13:32:55Z")
картофельная Голова ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/918 "2022-06-28T13:42:34Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Like toothpaste. I was thinking pimple, myself. Let us hope for the sake of the republic it reaches the pimple-in-chief. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/919 "2022-06-28T13:48:49Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Anybody familiar with Senate Sergeant at Arms, Michael Stenger? > > It appears he’s been murdered? Maybe suicide? > > Every cite I see is some right wing rag, but it’s on twitter too. The scary thing is, what if Stenger was to be the surprise witness? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/920 "2022-06-28T13:55:22Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Every cite I see is some right wing rag, but it’s on twitter too. > **[Michael Stenger's Death Before Jan. 6 Hearing Sparks Conspiracy Theories](https://www.newsweek.com/michael-stenger-dead-senate-sergeant-arms-jan-6-agitators-1719769)** > > Online users falsely claim the former Senate sergeant-at-arms was shot dead before he was due to testify to January 6 panel. > **[Everything we know about the late former Senate security chief Michael Stenger](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/michael-stenger-senate-sergeant-at-arms-b2111025.html)** > > Upper chamber’s sergeant-at-arms resigned a day after the Capitol riot after being heavily criticised [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=47)