# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1021 "2022-06-28T18:40:03Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@DesertDog](#): > > > > I note there was apparently a large amount of ketchup, as well. > > It’s good you’ve zeroed in on the most important details here. 😉 Well, these details are crucial. For instance, if it had been Dijon mustard that would have been a major scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1022 "2022-06-28T18:40:15Z")
> [@susan](#): > > o see a retired four-star general who swore an oath to defend the country and the Constitution plead the Fifth when asked if he believed in the peaceful transfer of power in America I mean, how hard is it to say “yes” to that so you don’t look like a complete shithead/weasel? Even if you’re lying, the worst follow up question is “were you attempting to prevent it anyway?” and then you plead the 5th. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1023 "2022-06-28T18:41:07Z")
meadows was in the deflect and blame camp, then moved to neutral. hutchinson said there were 3 camps. camp stop this, camp neutral, and camp deflect and blame. the testimony today had meadows smack in the middle of this. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1024 "2022-06-28T18:45:24Z")
If it came out later than Flynn actively opposed the peaceful transfer of power then if he answered yes he could conceivably be prosecuted for lying to Congress. Better to be safe and just answear the 5th to everything. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1025 "2022-06-28T18:45:49Z")
NYT: "Maggie Haberman Trump, basically a one-man response team for himself, is going after Hutchinson on his social media site, Truth Social. He’s using a familiar tack, that he hardly knows “who this person, Cassidy Hutchinson, is.”" ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1026 "2022-06-28T18:46:26Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > If it came out later than Flynn actively opposed the peaceful transfer of power then if he answered yes he could conceivably be prosecuted for lying to Congress. “General Flynn, you are charged with 1 count of treason. And oh yeah, 1 count of perjury.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1027 "2022-06-28T18:47:36Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Trump, basically a one-man response team for himself, is going after Hutchinson on his social media site, Truth Social. He’s using a familiar tack, that he hardly knows “who this person, Cassidy Hutchinson, is.”" But he probably tried to grope her at least once. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1028 "2022-06-28T18:47:54Z")
> [@susan](#): > > NYT: > > "Maggie Haberman > > Trump, basically a one-man response team for himself, is going after Hutchinson on his social media site, Truth Social. He’s using a familiar tack, that he hardly knows “who this person, Cassidy Hutchinson, is.”" Thanks for that. I’ve been wondering how he’s being reacting to today’s proceedings. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1029 "2022-06-28T18:48:32Z")
As usual. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1030 "2022-06-28T18:48:56Z")
“Hutchinson ? Never heard of her. Maybe I took a picture with her once. I take a LOT of pictures with a LOT of people. Maybe she brought me coffee once.” The crowd loves it when you play your greatest hits. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1031 "2022-06-28T18:49:58Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > But he probably tried to grope her at least once. But that doesn’t mean he knew who she was. I hope she has a heavy-duty, 24/7 security detail. Her life is in danger. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1032 "2022-06-28T18:50:33Z")
Giuliani and Meadows both sought pardons for their January 6 activities. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1033 "2022-06-28T18:50:36Z")
> [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](#): > > Why don’t they bring in Engel himself and have him testify directly? (Is there some Secret Service rule/law about that?) And assaulting a Secret Service agent really end up being the thing that brings Trump down like how tax evasion brought down Capone? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1034 "2022-06-28T18:50:43Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’ve been wondering how he’s being reacting to today’s proceedings. They’ll need to call drywall installers to Merde-a-Lardo, not just a cleaning crew. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1035 "2022-06-28T18:50:48Z")
Now discussing pardon requests: Giuliani, Meadows did. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1036 "2022-06-28T18:51:22Z")
Trump wanted to include language about pardoning the January 6th riot participants in the speech he gave on January 7th. Mark Meadows also wanted to include that language. Pat Cipollone put the kibosh on it. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1037 "2022-06-28T18:51:30Z")
But he heard bad things about her. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1038 "2022-06-28T18:51:40Z")
NYT: "Peter Baker “This is the smoking gun,” Solomon Wisenberg, a former deputy independent counsel in Ken Starr’s investigation that led to Bill Clinton’s impeachment, tells me. He says there’s no question that today’s hearing establishes a case for Trump’s criminal culpability on “seditious conspiracy charges.”" ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1039 "2022-06-28T18:52:00Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Well, these details are crucial. And not insignificant in their possible PR utility. I hope the phrase “ketchup-throwing tantrum” becomes indelibly associated with Trump to the point where even his supporters can’t totally avoid hearing it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1040 "2022-06-28T18:52:44Z")
Apparently there’s significant witness tampering going on– **holy shit**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=53)