# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1141 "2022-06-28T23:54:38Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > But I couldn’t help noticing you have enough confidence in my confidence to add the word, “figuratively,” to your pronouncement. 😉 So thank you. Yeah, well I’m not gonna go completely out on a limb. I don’t want to eat a hat. (fingers crossed despite my skepticism…) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1142 "2022-06-28T23:59:52Z")
Great post! 👍🏽 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1143 "2022-06-29T00:08:40Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > However, the numerous other examples of Trump being unhinged, such as throwing ketchup-laden lunch dishes at the wall, were observed first-hand. Didn’t she say that she helped clean up the thrown lunch? Or am I imagining that? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1144 "2022-06-29T00:09:27Z")
She did say that. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1145 "2022-06-29T00:11:38Z")
Guys up in trees with guns! I wonder what became of them? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1146 "2022-06-29T00:16:53Z")
She also said he would yank the tablecloth and everything on it off the table. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1147 "2022-06-29T00:22:10Z")
I’m wanting to see a reenactment of the wheel grabbing. Which side was trump on, and which arm did he grab with? If he was on the right, and grabbed with his right hand, his left hand could go for the throat. It’s quite a reach from the back seat to the wheel- he would have been half way over the seat back. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1148 "2022-06-29T00:23:27Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > She also said he would yank the tablecloth and everything on it off the table. “And the flowers are still standing!” > [@Andy\_L](#): > > A useful guide to the Fifth Amendment I absolutely love that online strip and have read all the way through it over the years. I can’t recommend it enough to anyone curious about the law. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1149 "2022-06-29T00:24:31Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > he would yank the tablecloth and everything on it off the table So he was telling the truth when he said nobody was tougher on china than him. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1150 "2022-06-29T00:26:07Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > [@Aspenglow](#): > > > > > [@DesertDog](#): > > > > > > I note there was apparently a large amount of ketchup, as well. > > > > It’s good you’ve zeroed in on the most important details here. 😉 > > Well, these details are crucial. The ketchup is how we know it was done by Trump. If it had been a Pence tantrum, she’d have had to clean up mayonnaise instead. … I got to hear a good portion of the testimony today while driving in my car. Hutchinson did a great job, but if I had “something to the effect of” on my drinking game bingo card, I’d now be dead. … Re the “plead the 5th” issue: In a criminal case, a defendant has a 5th amendment right not to testify. But if they waive it and choose to testify, they have to answer all of the questions that are asked. When a person is subpoenaed to testify, meanwhile, they are being compelled to testify. This might be in a deposition, for example. In this case, where the person is being required to sit for questioning, they can selectively invoke the 5th amendment in not answering those questions which might tend to incriminate them. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1151 "2022-06-29T00:26:59Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > The ketchup is how we know it was done by Trump. And it was probably on a hot dog, too! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1152 "2022-06-29T00:39:07Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > And it was probably on a hot dog, too! More likely steak. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1153 "2022-06-29T00:59:31Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > The ketchup is how we know it was done by Trump. If it had been a Pence tantrum, she’d have had to clean up mayonnaise instead. I feel like Pence’s idea of a tantrum is to pout slightly and slowly blink his eyes once. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1154 "2022-06-29T01:07:56Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yeah, well I’m not gonna go completely out on a limb. I don’t want to eat a hat. (fingers crossed despite my skepticism…) Hats could be made palatable, just for the purpose . . . > **[Edible Party Hat](https://www.instructables.com/edible-party-hat/)** > > Edible Party Hat: Parties are always fun. There's good friends to socialize with, have few drinks, and of course there's the food! Have you ever noticed that everyone seems to crowd around the food table during parties, more than anywhere else?... It would assplode a lot of Republican heads if Trump poured ketchup on his arugula and then threw all _that_ at the wall. Can the Committee get those White House valets, maids, butlers, to testify? Is there any so-called “privilege” there? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1155 "2022-06-29T01:18:53Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > Not sure I’m loving this news. When “are prepared to testify under oath” changes into “have in fact testified under oath”, get back to me. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1156 "2022-06-29T01:28:42Z")
CNN: "The former President’s attempt to distance himself from Hutchinson, whom he described as “bad news” on Tuesday, came after the committee showed renderings of the West Wing to demonstrate just how close she was to the Oval Office as an assistant to Meadows. Multiple former White House aides also publicly vouched for Hutchinson’s proximity to Trump and his chief of staff before and during her appearance on Tuesday. Anyone downplaying Cassidy Hutchinson’s role or her access in the West Wing either doesn’t understand how the Trump [White House] worked or is attempting to discredit her because they’re scared of how damning this testimony is," former White House deputy press secretary Sarah Matthews [tweeted](https://twitter.com/SarahAMatthews1/status/1541845209671237637). In response to this, one former White House aide said, “everyone high up at the WH knew her. And even if Trump didn’t know her name he most certainly recognized her. She traveled on AF1 with Mark for every trip.” Additionally, this former aide said that while Tuesday’s testimony was crazy, it’s also 100% believable given what this person knew after working in the White House." ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1157 "2022-06-29T01:47:22Z")
MSNBC: Carol Leonnig: T wasn’t in “the Beast.” “The Suburban” would have been easier “geometrically” for T to have grabbed for the wheel and lunged at Engel. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1158 "2022-06-29T01:51:23Z")
Former WH comms director calls Ornato a liar: > However, this is a distraction! Who gives a shit if it actually happened. It’s the least important thing that was said all day. It’s a tactic to try to change the conversation into a he-said-she-said on some bullshit. Wanting to go to the Capitol, knowing the crowd had weapons, saying Pence deserved to be hanged, removing the magnetometers, etc. That’s what’s important. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1159 "2022-06-29T01:52:27Z")
The president wasn’t in the actual beast. He was in the suv that he was in during the Walter reed Covid ride. He could have reached into the front seat of the vehicle. And you do see arm movement from the back seat in the video. He would not have been able to reach the front if he was in the huge limo beast. They used the suv that day as it is more agile and trump preferred the feel of the vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1160 "2022-06-29T01:54:28Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Murdoch has figured that Trump’s usefulness is over. Fox has turned on him No they haven’t. The slant now is that Brave Sir Trump wanted to go to the Capitol, but the deep state stopped him. And Hutchinson’s testimony is all fake anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=59)