# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1642 "2022-07-05T23:06:47Z")

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True, but I think that reasoning was that the McDonald person was “safe.” Another con in the kitchen?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1643 "2022-07-05T23:08:13Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> July 12 is the next hearing.

If the Republicans were running this thing, the next hearing would be in two weeks.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1644 "2022-07-05T23:34:19Z")

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Joe Rogan gets it right for once:

> <https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1544370898509111298?t=-sbwnwOaaBW_E_086xJsbg&s=19>

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1645 "2022-07-05T23:40:38Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> …Other inmates will be falling over him for the privilege of doing his laundry and covering his work assignments. They do this partly because the rich inmates can get good food and stuff, and partly because the white collar criminals that pulled off big crimes take on hero status. He’ll be the subject of almost universal unconditional adulation. …

This solution is acceptable.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1646 "2022-07-05T23:41:40Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Joe Rogan gets it right for once:

Rogan is probably bitter at Trump for promoting the vaccine.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1647 "2022-07-05T23:58:00Z")

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I agree with Ann\_Hedonia . He will be a god. Who has a better story when they’re sitting around bragging. ?

I was insulted by a “person of color” at the white house correspondence dinner and said “fuck it, I’m running for President”

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1648 "2022-07-06T00:31:24Z")

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Wow. That’s a shocker.

Joe Rogan uses words like “existential.”

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1649 "2022-07-06T00:53:06Z")

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I concede that Trump may be popular with _White_ prisoners.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1650 "2022-07-06T01:06:14Z")

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I haven’t seen anyone post an actual link yet, so here is one:

Next hearing: Tuesday July 12 at 10:00 ET.

> **[Jan. 6 live: Potential final public hearing will focus on Trump's effort to...](https://news.yahoo.com/live-january-6-committee-holds-224311193.html)**
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> The House select committee is investigating the Capitol riot and the role Donald Trump and his allies played in trying to overturn the 2020 election.

> [@](#):
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> The next January 6 committee hearing is scheduled for July 12, at 10 a.m. ET.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1651 "2022-07-06T14:42:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Convicted.
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> 1. It would send a message to other corrupt politicians that these things Simply Are Not Done.

^ This Johnny\_LA.

The play book has been written. But if it doesn’t get you a win, and instead prison, few coaches would follow it.

They will try to improve the play book of course. That’s already being done.

I don’t care if it pisses off millions of people. THEY ARE WRONG. They would riot, they would yell and scream, but we cannot look the other way because it’s going to make some idiots angry.

We have to take back control of the asylum.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1652 "2022-07-06T14:49:57Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I don’t care if it pisses off millions of people. THEY ARE WRONG. **They would riot** ,

And honestly, a good solid riot might actually be helpful. Get enough of these people arrested and imprisoned themselves, and maybe things might get better. They’d typically lose the right to vote, and maybe even the right to own guns. That could only be a good thing at this point.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1653 "2022-07-06T14:56:00Z")

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Looks like the J6C just made a testimony deal with Pat Cipollone.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1654 "2022-07-06T15:00:31Z")

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That should be interesting.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1655 "2022-07-06T15:10:23Z")

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[NY Times link on Cipollone](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/06/us/politics/pat-cipollone-jan-6-testimony.html).

> Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel to President Donald J. Trump who repeatedly fought Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, has reached a deal to be interviewed by Friday before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack, according to people familiar with the inquiry.

> Mr. Cipollone will sit for a videotaped, transcribed interview, according to a person familiar with the discussions. He is not expected to testify publicly.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1656 "2022-07-06T15:22:21Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Next hearing: Tuesday July 12 at 10:00 ET.

NASA to reveal much-anticipated first science observations from the James Webb Space Telescope: Tuesday July 12 at 10:30 ET

It’s going to be quite a morning – J6C vs JWST – and one in which we will all reveal to ourselves whether our true first love is politics or science! 😉

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1657 "2022-07-06T15:35:52Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> And honestly, a good solid riot might actually be helpful.

These idjits would probably try to break into whatever prison Trump is in.

Let them, problem solved.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1658 "2022-07-06T16:12:30Z")

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Old Patsy Baloney tried to hold out, but it appears the fire is getting too hot even for those with legitimate claims to Exec Privilege.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1659 "2022-07-06T16:38:39Z")

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He doesn’t really have a legitimate claim to executive privilege.

> There is no good faith basis for him to refuse to answer the committee’s questions on any assertion of a legal privilege.
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> The most straightforward evidence for this conclusion is that many other Trump administration lawyers have already appeared before the committee and testified to their discussions with Trump… Cipollone (as well as his deputy Pat Philbin) met with the Committee, reportedly back in April, to speak informally about the issues under investigation. Under these circumstances, it would be exceedingly unconvincing for Cipollone to maintain that he is now precluded from offering full testimony.

The linked article goes into a _lot_ of details on why such a claim would likely fail.

> **[The Law Requires Pat Cipollone to Answer the Jan. 6 Committee’s Questions](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/07/pat-cipollone-could-contempt-jail-trump.html)**
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> Former White House Counsel W. Neil Eggleston writes about the legal and professional implications for Trump's White House Counsel if Cipollone refuses to appear and fully answer the committee's questions.

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I hate seeing Pat Cipollone becoming prominent in the news because seeing his name tends to make me hungry, as in “I just had a lovely cipollone sandwich on a ciabatta bun with mustard and pickle”. Cipollone sounds like something you’d order from an Italian deli, thinly sliced, but not too much, because it’s expensive.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1661 "2022-07-06T17:02:25Z")

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Funny, every time I read the name I think of Iona Staller, better known as [Cicciolina.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004699/Italian-porn-star-Cicciolina-68-launches-political-party-government-cut-pension.html)

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