# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1662 "2022-07-06T18:30:26Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I hate seeing Pat Cipollone becoming prominent in the news

I look forward to seeing his testimony. His legal responses, while he was working for Trump, that I read were hilarious for the extreme lack of shits given (mostly for requests for information by Congress).

I’m curious to know if that’s his natural personality or if he was pushed into a corner by the extreme lack of decorum of the people that he worked for.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1663 "2022-07-06T18:36:37Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I hate seeing Pat Cipollone becoming prominent in the news because seeing his name tends to make me hungry…

It makes me think of the Astaire-Rogers dance number, The Piccolino:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_kPNZB6wwyY/maxresdefault.jpg "Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers - The piccolino dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kPNZB6wwyY&t=93)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1664 "2022-07-06T18:39:42Z")

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> **[Republicans plot vengeance on Jan. 6 committee](https://www.axios.com/2022/07/06/republicans-plot-vengeance-jan-6-committee)**
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> Key House Republicans are threatening to subpoena records of the committee if the GOP retakes the majority next year.

No kidding. 🥱

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1665 "2022-07-06T18:44:04Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > I hate seeing Pat Cipollone becoming prominent in the news because seeing his name tends to make me hungry…
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> It makes me think of the Astaire-Rogers dance number, The Piccolino:

> [@silenus](#):
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> Funny, every time I read the name I think of Iona Staller, better known as [Cicciolina.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004699/Italian-porn-star-Cicciolina-68-launches-political-party-government-cut-pension.html)

I guess I’m the only one who is obsessed by deli sandwiches! 😉

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1666 "2022-07-06T18:55:09Z")

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There are at least two of us.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1667 "2022-07-06T18:57:09Z")

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Sounds like more Republican projection. They know how shady it would be if they were running such a committee so they assume that Bennie Thompson operates the same way.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1668 "2022-07-06T18:58:02Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> No kidding.

“Oh, no Mr. Republican, sir, _please_ don’t make us publish even more evidence against Trump!”

I suspect this will go just about as well as [that committee Trump formed to “investigate” fraud in the 2016 election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Election_Integrity).

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1669 "2022-07-06T18:59:13Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Sounds like more Republican projection. They know how shady it would be if they were running such a committee so they assume that Bennie Thompson operates the same way.

My GOD, you can’t ask for FACTS!1!!1

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**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1670 "2022-07-06T19:00:04Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> They will try to improve the play book of course. That’s already being done.

[https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/independent-state-legislature-theory-what-matters/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/independent-state-legislature-theory-what-matters/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1671 "2022-07-07T02:32:42Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> There are at least two of us.

Make that three.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1672 "2022-07-07T03:17:10Z")

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I’m all for deli sandwiches, but I prefer my cipollini with no olives in it.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1673 "2022-07-07T03:23:44Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Funny, every time I read the name I think of Iona Staller, better known as [Cicciolina.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004699/Italian-porn-star-Cicciolina-68-launches-political-party-government-cut-pension.html)

I always think of [Chicolini](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td3p2XKHP2M). He may talk like an idiot, he may look like an idiot but don’t let that fool you, he really is an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1674 "2022-07-07T05:01:12Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> I’m all for deli sandwiches, but I prefer my cipollini with no olives in it.

John Cipollina was a pretty good guitarist. And yeah, that was how I first read his name. And once again I feel bad about the association my renegade head is making.

> **[John Cipollina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cipollina)**
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> John Cipollina (August 24, 1943 – May 29, 1989) was a guitarist best known for his role as a founder and the lead guitarist of the prominent San Francisco rock band Quicksilver Messenger Service. After leaving Quicksilver he formed the band Copperhead, was a member of the San Francisco All Stars and later played with numerous other bands.
> John and his twin sister Manuela were born in Berkeley, California, on August 24, 1943. Cipollina attended Tamalpais High School, in Mill Valley, California,...

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1675 "2022-07-07T07:00:00Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> "Oh, no Mr. Republican, sir, _please_ don’t make us publish even more evidence against Trump!”

Don’t underestimate the ability to cherry-pick quotes to create a competing narrative.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1676 "2022-07-07T12:34:48Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [https://www.axios.com/2022/07/06/republicans-plot-vengeance-jan-6-committee](https://www.axios.com/2022/07/06/republicans-plot-vengeance-jan-6-committee)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Key House Republicans are threatening to subpoena records of the committee if the GOP retakes the majority next year.

They plan to subpoena themselves? Or are they imagining that the Democrats will take al copies of the records, transcripts, video etc home and put them in their attics?

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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1677 "2022-07-07T13:56:33Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [https://www.axios.com/2022/07/06/republicans-plot-vengeance-jan-6-committee](https://www.axios.com/2022/07/06/republicans-plot-vengeance-jan-6-committee)

Ah, but then when the Democrats regain control they can investigate the investigators of the investigation, because that’s totally what we’re paying these Muppets for…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1678 "2022-07-07T14:16:53Z")

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That way, the Libertarians win: nobody actually running the country.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1679 "2022-07-07T14:17:06Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> They plan to subpoena themselves? Or are they imagining that the Democrats will take al copies of the records, transcripts, video etc home and put them in their attics?

I would say that they should just put stuff into the public domain but there could be criminal investigations underway, by the DOJ, that would be affected.

Maybe there’s some way that they can grant it to the DOJ to own and manage the release of.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1680 "2022-07-07T14:46:38Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I would say that they should just put stuff into the public domain but there could be criminal investigations underway, by the DOJ, that would be affected.

I’m not sure if that is a good idea or not - lean towards good, but there is potentially sensitive info that shouldn’t be public domain.

My point, however, is that the GOP issuing the subpoena is the equivalent of me asking a judge to force me to turnover my bank records to myself. The House of Representatives has full access to their own records.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1681 "2022-07-07T15:20:28Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> My point, however, is that the GOP issuing the subpoena is the equivalent of me asking a judge to force me to turnover my bank records to myself. The House of Representatives has full access to their own records.

Indeed. These morons don’t understand how their own jobs work. Why would they? They thing their job as a politician consists of producing sound bites, grifting the rubes and keeping their corporate masters happy.

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