# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 86
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1702 "2022-07-07T20:19:05Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s not going to happen, so let’s stop hijacking this thread with idle speculation about non-events. Kindly step over to ATMB, please. > [@"Hijack" in the Jan 6th thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hijack-in-the-jan-6th-thread/967576): > > In the Jan 6th thread I expressed an opinion that Mike Lindell should be called and questioned on his involvement. I was mod-noted by @Aspenglow for a ‘hijack’. Come again? How is it a hijack? It’s a discussion of who should be called as a witness in the hearing. It seems to me to be directly on-topic. If you disagree with my opinion, then we can discuss it. You can present me with factual reasons why he hasn’t and won’t be called. And this is a reasonable point to discuss. Why forb… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1703 "2022-07-07T20:28:00Z")
Already done. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1704 "2022-07-07T22:48:45Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’m a moderate. The witness list needs to be protected. It’s not some optional nicety. If you have to play dumb and hide stuff in your shoe to sneak it out of the building then that’s just what you do. The committee is trying to put together an accurate record of what led to and what occurred on January 6. They will not be hiding things. The world doesn’t work in the conspiracy theory, political thriller way that you seem to think it does. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1705 "2022-07-07T23:42:55Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > The world doesn’t work in the conspiracy theory, political thriller way that you seem to think it does. I don’t recall saying any such thing. I said that some members of Congress are liable to be charged criminally by the DOJ, and that the charges will probably have some basis in the information provided by the witnesses and materials discovered by the Special Committee. I’m quite happy to provide information, substantiating that expectation? The DOJ routinely classifies and redacts materials for both public and Congressional use, on the basis that certain matters need to be hidden from outside eyes while investigations are underway. Usually, Congress tries to avoid stepping on the feet of the DOJ investigations by steering clear of matters of criminality. In this case, they chose not to. That creates the above issue where you’ve got a sizable amount of materials in the possession of the committee that, under normal procedure, would be confined to the eyes of those in the FBI and DOJ who were working the case and which could only make their way to the accused individuals after vetting and redaction. I have no issue with that system, as normally executed. Information about Roger Stone was redacted from the Mueller Report because the trial of Stone had not yet been held - and that seems reasonable to me. Not doing likewise, here, would already be bad enough without getting to the part where it’s the persons accused gaining access and who can selectively use the materials to their own end, and including all the private, not-for-public-dissemination underlying information that was surfaced by the investigation. If the Special Committee isn’t considering an option to classify and render the materials inaccessible until the DOJ clears everything for public dissemination then Merrick Garland should be looking at options to claim it for the Executive Branch, as classified materials pertinent to an active investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1706 "2022-07-08T03:31:44Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > . . . Just for a start they can ask him about his discussing martial law with the President. I think he [Lindell] would happily provide enough evidence to jail him [Trump?] and a lot of others. > > [. . .] > > I think he could be a key witness He [Lindell] has, and will happily provide, [enough evidence to put 300 million Americans in jail](https://crooksandliars.com/2022/01/mike-lindell-lies-300-million-americans). Not even the J6 Committee wants _that_ to happen! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1707 "2022-07-08T03:43:33Z")
Moderating: > [@Senegoid](#): > > He [Lindell] has, and will happily provide, [enough evidence to put 300 million Americans in jail](https://crooksandliars.com/2022/01/mike-lindell-lies-300-million-americans). Not even the J6 Committee wants _that_ to happen! There is a general mod note in the thread admonishing posters to not pursue discussion about speculative witnesses and which you are apparently ignoring. If @Peter_Morris can’t discuss it, neither can you. This is a formal warning for disregarding moderator instructions. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1708 "2022-07-08T06:43:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That way, the Libertarians win: nobody actually running the country. Back in my snarky days I preferred Congress spend its time on minutia like National Olives Week rather than eroding even more rights (I’m looking at _you_, PATRIOT Act). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1709 "2022-07-08T16:25:46Z")
🙃 > I mean… What is the dumber move: _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1709))_ ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1710 "2022-07-08T16:33:41Z")
Not to Godwinize myself, but the Nazis were similarly obsessed with documenting themselves so future descendants could appreciate their greatness. Watta buncha maroons. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1711 "2022-07-08T16:46:44Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1545398417546936325?t=199Q7eAHETqCvMz4XNIpqQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1545398417546936325?t=199Q7eAHETqCvMz4XNIpqQ&s=19) > > I mean… > > What is the dumber move: Well, history is written by the victors; they were obviously sure that they would win and wanted to document their greatness for posterity. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1712 "2022-07-08T16:51:46Z")
The movie’s website ([thesteal.com](http://thesteal.com)) seems to be a bit cagy on what their message is. On the one hand, they call it a “documentary on a grassroots protest”. On the other, they titled a movie about Roger Stone’s activities, “The Steal”. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1713 "2022-07-08T17:25:13Z")
!! > ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1714 "2022-07-08T17:59:35Z")
At the moment, Rhodes has plead “Not Guilty” to all charges. I’d be pretty suspicious of his offer, minus some serious behind-the-scenes convincing. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1715 "2022-07-08T18:10:45Z")
If I ran the committee, I’d let Rhodes testify live if and only if he first testifies under oath on tape in a closed room that he had contact with the White House to plan the insurrection. If he wants to disavow any connection between him and the DJT orbit, no live testimony. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1716 "2022-07-08T19:58:56Z")
Yeah, I’m sure lots of people would love to have a bit of screen time that will air on every cable network. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1717 "2022-07-08T21:18:07Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4F4qzPbcFiA/maxresdefault.jpg "Admiral Ackbar - "It's A Trap!"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA) “It’s a trap.” I’m pretty sure the committee has people that recognize this. Especially those that regularly read our posts here for advice. He should nor more be given a stage than My Pillow Guy. The guy is only in it for the notoriety and grift. Here’s an interview with his ex-wife and estranged adult children. Advanced abuse, fearing for their lives. This guy is Oranganus without the bronzer and gold toilet. > **[Exclusive: Oath Keepers Leader Stewart Rhodes' Children Speak](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/05/12/exclusive-oath-keepers-leader-stewart-rhodes-children-speak)** > > Elmer Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the antigovernment Oath Keepers organization, was, at the time of publication, in federal custody awaiting trial for his alleged role in orchestrating events at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., on... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1718 "2022-07-08T21:44:22Z")
Update: > ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1719 "2022-07-08T21:50:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1545523059951472641?t=6XAbgRan8q4uhUqk2n0osA&s=19](https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1545523059951472641?t=6XAbgRan8q4uhUqk2n0osA&s=19) “we were able to get all the questions we were able to get answered.” Well isn’t that informative. If they hadn’t even been able to get answered all the questions they were able to get answered, that would have been a poor show indeed. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1720 "2022-07-08T21:54:23Z")
I don’t see why Cipollone should need to take the 5th. I don’t think he was involved in any of the conspiracy. I did expect a fair amount of atty-client priviledge, though. But if a client is planning future crimes or in the process of executing one, I don’t think that priviledge still holds. But I’m not a lawyer, so could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1721 "2022-07-08T21:54:51Z")
“we were able to get all the questions we were able to get answered.” The hell does that mean? (If he answered one out of a hundred questions, or 100 out of 100 the statement would apply. ??? ) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=85) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=87)