# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1862 "2022-07-12T18:27:51Z")

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@ThelmaLou, I think the most explosive and dangerous testimony presented so far is that Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn and Giuliani (possibly others) brought with them an Executive Order for Trump’s signature, appointing Powell as a Special Counsel authorized to seize voting machines via the Department of Defense. That’s… jaw dropping and terrifying.

Trump did apparently utter the words that Powell was appointed as a Special Counsel, but no follow through occurred, so she was not treated as one. She thought she was, though.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1863 "2022-07-12T18:28:22Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> “What about me ?!?”
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> –General Flynn

Tru. Tru.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1864 "2022-07-12T18:28:30Z")

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I would think that sequence (the order in which facts are delivered to the TV audience) and cadence (the pace at which it’s delivered) matter.

The determination that ‘new’ and important evidence exists threatens to complicate sequence and cadence, IMHO.

I hope they can maintain adequate focus on sales, strategy, trial law, composition, etc – the all-too-important theatrical element of the J6H.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1865 "2022-07-12T18:30:37Z")

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A Tweeter said, “It will be wild means we need volunteers for the firing squad”.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1866 "2022-07-12T18:31:17Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> what’s the context for this? Wow.

A tweet from a Trump supporter, in the buildup to January 6. Paraphrased, “We need volunteers for the firing squad.” Not sure how serious it was, but given other tweets that were exhibited, some would have taken it seriously.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1867 "2022-07-12T18:33:58Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Powell as a Special Counsel authorized to seize voting machines via the Department of Defense. That’s… jaw dropping and terrifying.

I am hoping the US military has enough honor left to remember their oaths are to the Constitution, not to the President.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1868 "2022-07-12T18:34:25Z")

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gavel down. raskin up.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1869 "2022-07-12T18:39:49Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Not sure how serious it was, but given other tweets that were exhibited, some would have taken it seriously.

I’m not sure if this would be in the Committee’s purview - I rather think it would be - but I would love to see an expert in mob (as opposed to Mob) psychology talk about how this kind of rhetoric helps prime people to perform norm-destroying actions, and how actions like the Proud Boys breaking those norms by attacking police helps those primed people to do things they normally might think twice about.

Bonus points if the expert is a right-winger, though in the field of psychology that might be a tough ask.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1870 "2022-07-12T18:40:26Z")

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Never thought I would hear thousands of sphincters clinching, but that’s what happened when Raskin mentioned the name of that chat room.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1871 "2022-07-12T18:40:58Z")

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We’re now going to hear from the very people who stormed the Capitol that day. I assume they’re going to tell us, in their own words, exactly who directed and inspired them to commit illegal acts.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1872 "2022-07-12T18:41:00Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I am hoping the US military has enough honor left to remember their oaths are to the Constitution, not to the President.

And ever since James Comey, we know that anyone who remembers that is absolute anathema to Trump.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1873 "2022-07-12T18:42:00Z")

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The Oath Keepers has a General Counsel?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1874 "2022-07-12T18:42:05Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> ‘The police have no standing if they’re laying in a pool of their own blood.’
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> Holy shit.

Is that another quote from the unhinged tweeters out there who were inspired by Trump?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1875 "2022-07-12T18:42:15Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I’m following here: [Connecting The Dots: It’s Your January 6 Hearings, Day 7 LIVEBLOG! - Wonkette](https://www.wonkette.com/connecting-the-dots-its-your-january-6-hearings-day-7-liveblog)

Thanks!

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Thank you, @Spoons & @Aspenglow

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Never thought I would hear thousands of sphincters clinching, but that’s what happened when Raskin mentioned the name of that chat room.

So **that** was that sound. I thought it was the Texas Electrical Grid shutting down.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1876 "2022-07-12T18:42:38Z")

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Yes. Yes. (extra characters for Discourse.)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1877 "2022-07-12T18:42:42Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> The Oath Keepers has a General Counsel?

I got ninja’d before I could even post! But yes, that was my thought too.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1878 "2022-07-12T18:43:45Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I am hoping the US military has enough honor left to remember their oaths are to the Constitution, not to the President.

Me, too. It would be a good discussion to have in the Adjacent thread after today’s proceeding.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1879 "2022-07-12T18:44:07Z")

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Raskin shows examples of encrypted messages calling for violence. Did “Security Intelligence” (whoever that was) have this intelligence before Jan.6 (and thus had warning it was going down) or is this stuff the Committee has uncovered only after the fact?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1880 "2022-07-12T18:47:27Z")

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I’d guess that someone on the inside had cleartext copies of those messages (or was able to access them afterwards and copied them) so the investigators didn’t have to decrypt anything.

Whether that inside person was on the inside before or after the attack is another question.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1881 "2022-07-12T18:48:42Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Never thought I would hear thousands of sphincters clinching, but that’s what happened when Raskin mentioned the name of that chat room.

I’m not able to watch/listen; what was the name?

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