# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1922 "2022-07-12T19:34:09Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> “We need to quit mincing words. What it was going to be was an armed revolution.”

Which I believe hits the “waging war against the United States” threshold necessary for Treason charges.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1923 "2022-07-12T19:34:20Z")

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Van Tatenhove: “We’ve been extremely lucky” that more blood has not been shed already.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1924 "2022-07-12T19:35:15Z")

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Van Tatenhove has been a very effective witness, perhaps more so even due to his less than conventional appearance.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1925 "2022-07-12T19:35:25Z")

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It sounds to me as if the Oath Keepers are looking for any excuse to bust heads, shoot people, and blow stuff up, if I’m understanding Mr. Van Tatenhove correctly.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1926 "2022-07-12T19:35:37Z")

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You guys are finding these yahoos persuasive of something? “Uh - we were a bunch of dolts!” Even Ayres says he now feels “Not so much” that the election was stolen. And t-shirt boy is just spouting his personal conclusions.

I guess I don’t understand the evidentiary value - just to prove that people were stupid enough to believe social media? Does anyone really doubt that?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1927 "2022-07-12T19:36:52Z")

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What has not been mentioned is that Stewart Rhodes once lived in Van Tatenhove’s basement for a stretch. I’m sure he aspired to do whatever it took to rise from his circumstances. So to speak.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1928 "2022-07-12T19:38:43Z")

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I think it’s meant to demonstrate Trump’s very strong influence on these supporters. So that Trump’s actions directly and predictably caused violence and lawbreaking.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1929 "2022-07-12T19:39:48Z")

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Ayers again: “Take the blinders off and take a step back and see what’s happening.”

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1930 "2022-07-12T19:39:48Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> You guys are finding these yahoos persuasive of something? “Uh - we were a bunch of dolts!” Even Ayres says he now feels “Not so much” that the election was stolen. And t-shirt boy is just spouting his personal conclusions.
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> I guess I don’t understand the evidentiary value - just to prove that people were stupid enough to believe social media? Does anyone really doubt that?

Again, I think the audience for these guys might be others in Trump’s cult. Having someone polished and eloquent may actually be _less_ persuasive than someone who’s stuttering and not especially perceptive.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1931 "2022-07-12T19:40:02Z")

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Mr. Ayres: “I had horse blinders on, I was blocked the whole time.”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1932 "2022-07-12T19:43:41Z")

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Mr. Ayres has discovered Donnie Two-scoops has the Merde-as Touch.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1933 "2022-07-12T19:44:15Z")

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Oh man. The call-out to the permanently injured cop.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1934 "2022-07-12T19:44:43Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> Brad Parscale comes across as the sanest person in Trump’s orbit.

Which is frightening

> **[Ex-Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale knocked to the ground to end...](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2020/09/28/ex-trump-campaign-manager-brad-parscale-knocked-to-the-ground-to-end-standoff-body-camera-footage-shows/)**
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> A husband who’d been drinking, had weapons, and may have threatened suicide. A wife with cuts and bruises who fled the house. An urgent call to police, who responded with SWAT team members an…

Parscale’s mostly a grifter, actually, he made millions off Trump’s campaign.

And, regarding the ex-Oathkeepers………face tattoos are forever, dude.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1935 "2022-07-12T19:45:08Z")

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And if you noticed, Officer Fanone (who was also injured in the riot) was two seats to Sgt. Ganone’s left.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1936 "2022-07-12T19:49:17Z")

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Have you discussed this before - the chair’s reference to the “young women” on the panel?

Kinda strikes my ear as jarring.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1937 "2022-07-12T19:51:14Z")

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it his accent. he is saying gentle woman. gentle gets a bit slide-y in southern.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
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A Southerner of a certain age. Like Ayres’ "you-know"s I’m willing to see it as a verbal tic.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1939 "2022-07-12T19:54:03Z")

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Cheney accuses Trump of witness tampering at the close.

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Does he _ever_ quit?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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Ms. Cheney could host a reality show: “Tune in next week. Here’s a preview.” But a very effective closing remark, nonetheless.

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