# Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940 "2022-06-09T22:34:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1942 "2022-07-12T19:55:09Z")
Wow. Still with the witness tampering. Liz Cheney advised in her closing statement that a witness not yet heard from in the Committee’s hearings received a phone call from Trump. They refused to take it and instead referred the matter to their attorney, who notified the Committee. The Committee notified the DOJ. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1943 "2022-07-12T19:55:22Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > The fees will help pay for stuff at the canteen when she’s in prison. 🙂 Unless Dominion garnishes them to pay off the lawsuit judgment. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1944 "2022-07-12T19:55:45Z")
There was a clip of Cippolone – what did he say? I only saw the very end. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1945 "2022-07-12T19:56:13Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > a witness not yet heard Now I’m damn curious. Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1946 "2022-07-12T19:56:33Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > Cheney accuses Trump of witness tampering at the close. This might be the biggest thing today. Trump himself referred to DOJ for witness tampering. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1947 "2022-07-12T19:56:46Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Now I’m damn curious. Any ideas? “Tune in next week,” as I mentioned above. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1948 "2022-07-12T19:57:07Z")
Meadows, perhaps? Maybe wishful thinking. But who else would get a personal call from Trump himself? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1949 "2022-07-12T19:58:27Z")
LOL, you read my mind… I’ve already started thinking on it. But I don’t know. @iiandyiiii, I doubt it’s Meadows. He’s not cooperating with the Committee at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1950 "2022-07-12T20:00:19Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I guess I don’t understand the evidentiary value - just to prove that people were stupid enough to believe social media? Does anyone really doubt that? Considering how often “No one is really stupid enough to believe the lies I was telling” has been used as a defense in court, yeah, I kind of think we do need unequivocal evidence that some people **are** that stupid on the record. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1951 "2022-07-12T20:02:09Z")
The evidentiary value is people saying they understood these words to be orders to act. It’s pretty clear. “I mean, he literally said _Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest!_ I just did what he asked!” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1952 "2022-07-12T20:03:21Z")
I find it interesting that Mr. Thompson always ends a hearing with a request for the gallery to remain seated “until the Capitol police have escorted the committee from the room.” ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1953 "2022-07-12T20:05:29Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > it his accent. he is saying gentle woman. gentle gets a bit slide-y in southern. Boy - I gotta get my hearing checked, because the first 2 syllables of his “gentlewoman” sound greatly different than the clear 1st 2 syllables of his “gentleman.” And instead of sounding kinda like “gentle”, they sound exactly like “young”. Are you serious? I only saw the last 2 witnesses. I wonder how they will play to those like-minded. Because to me, it just sounded like “There are a ton of stupid people who are eager to believe whatever they read on-line.” Ayers described himself as “just a normal dad.” Yeah - just a normal dad who spends his free time delving into violent and hate-filled conspiracy theory. Made me think of how popular Dubai’s Patriot Act and War on Iraq were. I’m having trouble seeing how charges - or other meaningful change - result from a politician relying on the gullibility of his/her followers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1954 "2022-07-12T20:07:41Z")
Clues: 1. It’s a person Trump would call personally 2. The committee has not shown their testimony to public yet 3. (Possible) the fact of their testimony may not have been revealed yet 4. Person is comfortable enough to ignore the call and sensible enough to call their lawyer 5. And the next hearing is about Trump and his actions that day … any others? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1955 "2022-07-12T20:08:16Z")
He was asked if he repeatedly asked/advised Trump to do something to call it off, and he said yes, he and others thought it their duty. He was asked if Trump coulda gone to the media room at any time to call them off, and he said yes. Not exactly a blockbuster to my ears, but I guess this is the sorta thing where the hope is that the cumulative weight of these countless grams of sand will add up to anything meaningful. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1956 "2022-07-12T20:08:24Z")
@Dinsdale , it’s not your hearing. I also heard “young woman” once or twice. But only once or twice; most often it was “gentlewoman from Wyoming” or “gentlelady from Florida,” for example. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1957 "2022-07-12T20:10:34Z")
Curious. Maybe the first time I heard it as “young woman” triggered me to mishear subsequent “young womans.” I just know it has been decades since I was called to task for referring to people in ways I thought innocuous - or even complimentary. I sure would do my best to avoid doing so on a national platform. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1958 "2022-07-12T20:10:44Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Made me think of how popular Dubai’s Patriot Act and War on Iraq were. I’m having trouble seeing how charges - or other meaningful change - result from a politician relying on the gullibility of his/her followers. > [@Jan 6 Hearings Follow-Along & Commentary Thread (Starts Jun 9, 2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1388): > > Since we are apparently living in a country where nine priests conduct seances with the ghost of Thomas Jefferson to determine life in the 21st century, let’s go back to their mindset. When the Founders wrote the Constitution, they did not envision a crowd being whipped into a frenzy to legally declare war against an unbeatable nuclear state in a global environment dominated by the West. What they envisioned was exactly what happened: a local potentate rallying his army to attack the Congress. … ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1959 "2022-07-12T20:12:06Z")
I turned over to Fox right as Mr. Thompson was adjourning the meeting. The host turned to one of their legal experts for his summation of today’s hearing. He stated that they’ve only reinforced what everybody has known for some time…that Trump is no longer fit to hold office. And this is what they should have done 17 months ago at the impeachment hearings. Yeah, I’m sure everybody on the legal team at Fox thought exactly that 17 months ago. ETA: The legal dude also stated that there’s not nearly enough evidence to bring criminal charges against Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1960 "2022-07-12T20:12:15Z")
Damn - Dubya autocorrected as Dubai! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940/1961 "2022-07-12T20:13:19Z")
My money is on Steve Bannon - he just agreed to testify and I’m sure Trump will want to coordinate what he should tell the panel. However, I think Bannon is legitimately aware of the legal peril he’s currently in and doesn’t want to continue pushing his luck - so when Trump called he wanted to show he’s playing ball with the government now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-hearings-follow-along-commentary-thread-starts-jun-9-2022/965940.md?page=99)