# Jan 6 insurrection question **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 30, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-insurrection-question/956931 "2021-12-30T17:24:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-insurrection-question/956931/1 "2021-12-30T17:24:01Z")
Does anybody know if any of the Proud Boys or their ilk started for the Capitol prior to the command from TFG? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-insurrection-question/956931/2 "2021-12-30T17:44:15Z")
Yes. A contingent of Proud Boys marched on the Capitol immediately after Rudy Giuliani’s call for trial by combat, but about an hour before Trump spoke (although he had tweeted some pretty incendiary stuff before that.) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-insurrection-question/956931/3 "2021-12-30T18:39:35Z")
Yes. There is ample evidence that at least some of the Proud Boys were planning violence on January 6th prior to Trump’s exhortations. > **[EXCLUSIVE Before Jan. 6, FBI collected information from at least 4 Proud Boys](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-before-jan-6-fbi-collected-information-least-4-proud-boys-2021-04-26/)** > > Among the far-right groups whose members are suspected of planning the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol are the Proud Boys. In March, the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s director told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he “absolutely” wished the... > **[Leaders of pro-Trump groups Oath Keepers, Proud Boys subpoenaed in Jan. 6...](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/23/oath-keepers-proud-boys-leaders-subpoenaed-in-jan-6-capitol-riot-probe.html)** > > The bipartisan House panel is probing the facts and causes of the riot, when hundreds of former President Donald Trump's supporters stormed the Capitol. In direct answer to your question, the articles don’t exclude Trump from being part of the conspiracy to commit the violence. So while we might say Trump’s words on January 6th were not the direct cause of their attack, his wishes, plans and communications with Proud Boys members, Oath Keepers and others via Roger Stone and Steve Bannon prior to the attack, may well have been. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-insurrection-question/956931/4 "2022-01-04T16:50:00Z")
Have they found out who was giving the guided tours of the Capitol prior to the insurrection? I haven’t heard much mention of it. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6-insurrection-question/956931/5 "2022-03-20T23:22:28Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/JEGIXqoAs04/maxresdefault.jpg "Judges Handing Out Longer Sentences To Capitol Rioters To Prevent A Repeat In 2024") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEGIXqoAs04)