# Jan 6th vs Beer Hall putsch a comparison

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 29, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080 "2022-06-29T00:51:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/1 "2022-06-29T00:51:12Z")

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Both run or inspired by insane person  
Both failed  
People died at both of them  
People ended up in jail at both  
The 2 Leaders of the movements were not arrested (so far for Trump)  
Jan 6th inspired by the putsch

Feel free to add other stuff

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/2 "2022-06-29T02:02:33Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Both run or inspired by insane person

. . . who were alleged to have _literal_ temper tantrums when things didn’t go their way. Now we know.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/3 "2022-06-29T03:20:12Z")

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Both led to absolute disaster for their country and citizens within 20 years.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/4 "2022-06-29T03:23:50Z")

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I don’t think it will take that long this time. Everything moves faster in the 21st century.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/5 "2022-06-29T05:41:32Z")

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Imagine Hitler if they had Twitter back then.

😵‍💫

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/6 "2022-06-29T06:25:31Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> The 2 Leaders of the movements were not arrested (so far for Trump)

Huh? Hitler fled the scene but he was arrested two days later, charged with treason, put on trial, and sentenced to five years in prison.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/7 "2022-06-29T11:00:30Z")

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Shame that justice moves so much more slowly in the USA. Trump under arrest on Jan 8th, or Jan 22nd, would have been a lot better for our future.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/8 "2022-06-29T11:12:46Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Huh? Hitler fled the scene but he was arrested two days later, charged with treason, put on trial, and sentenced to five years in prison.

A trial that he shamelessly used for self-promotion, that ended with a slap on the wrist (5 years were the minimum sentence), and he got free on probation after having done only 8 months at the Landsberg prison, which he spent with exceptional privileges and used to write “Mein Kampf”.

Yes, definitely history to learn from.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/9 "2022-06-29T11:18:52Z")

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I don’t have to, I’ve got Trump

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/10 "2022-06-29T11:52:29Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> > [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> > Both run or inspired by insane person
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> . . . who were alleged to have _literal_ temper tantrums when things didn’t go their way. Now we know.

Not fair to Hitler. AFAIK, Hitler was never alleged to have thrown food dishes laden with ketchup against the wall, swept the contents of a dinner table to the ground, or tried to assault one of his own bodyguards. Apparently when Hitler had a tantrum, he just yelled a lot.

Also, Hitler liked dogs. The Orange Peril has no use for them. He once claimed that playing with a dog would “make [him] look stupid”. We sure wouldn’t want that to ever happen! 😄 🤣

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/11 "2022-06-29T12:03:46Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> He once claimed that playing with a dog would “make [him] look stupid”.

By comparison, of course. Strange that he managed to become aware of that fact.  
One big difference between both putsches is that Hitler was on an ascending curve when he tried to access power by force while tanTrump was on a descending curve when he tried to hold on to power by force.  
Holding on to something you have should have been easier than getting something you don’t.  
Trump is an asset for his political rivals: he motivates the base of the Democrats like no other. Hitler was not hated enough (he was not even taken seriously - and if you ever read Mein Kampf, you’ll know why) until it was too late.  
At least Hitler wrote a book, albeit a bad one. tanTrump has not even read one in is life.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/12 "2022-06-29T17:50:36Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Not fair to Hitler. AFAIK, Hitler was never alleged to have thrown food dishes laden with ketchup against the wall, swept the contents of a dinner table to the ground, or tried to assault one of his own bodyguards. Apparently when Hitler had a tantrum, he just yelled a lot.

I seem to recall something about meat hooks, and Rommel committing suicide to save his family. But I digress.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/13 "2022-06-29T18:47:06Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Not fair to Hitler. AFAIK, Hitler was never alleged to have thrown food dishes laden with ketchup against the wall, swept the contents of a dinner table to the ground,

Just a variation on tantrums. Haven’t there been allegations that when Hitler had tantrums, he rolled on the floor, screamed, and chewed on the edges of the carpet? (Or am I conflating that with Khrushchev when they wouldn’t let him go to Disneyland?)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/14 "2022-06-29T22:46:27Z")

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Hitler refused to use chemical weapons. He never had a nuke so I assume he would have used one if he had one.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/15 "2023-06-05T23:53:53Z")

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Yes, but I think “chewing the carpet” was an idiom like “climbing the walls” - not literal

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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/16 "2023-06-07T03:06:02Z")

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[/quote]  
Apparently when Hitler had a tantrum, he just yelled a lot.  
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I think he did more than that. IIRC, those that pissed Hitler off were court martialed, shot and sent to the Russian front. 😬

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-6th-vs-beer-hall-putsch-a-comparison/967080/17 "2023-06-07T03:06:38Z")

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In that order!
