# Jan Brewer:  liar and hypocrite

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 27, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837 "2012-01-27T06:18:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/1 "2012-01-27T06:18:55Z")

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By now, most people have prolly heard about the tarmac conversation between President Obama and Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. I’d wager that about the same number have by now seen the image of Gov. Brewer pointing her finger at Pres. Obama.

While we don’t know what was actually being discussed, Gov. Brewer has expressed displeasure with the fact that the President walked away from her, apparently before she was done talking. She had this to say:

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> “It is what it is. I proceeded to say that to him, and he chose to walk away from me,” she said Thursday.
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> Asked whether she regarded that as disrespectful, she replied: “Well, I would never have walked away from anybody having a conversation. And, of course, that is what it is. It is disrespectful for me.”

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_OBAMA\_ARIZONA\_GOVERNOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-01-26-20-17-37](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_ARIZONA_GOVERNOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-01-26-20-17-37))

Let’s look at part of that again: **“Well, I would never have walked away from anybody having a conversation.”**

[Hypocrite](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xV7nTSqww). That’s exactly what Gov. Brewer did in 2010 when faced with questions about her comments that there were beheadings in the desert tied to illegal immigrants: she simply walked away from the people asking those questions, as you can see in that video.

[Liar.

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> President Obama didn’t exactly walk away from Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) during their disagreement on Wednesday on an airport tarmac near Phoenix, said one of the only people to witness the exchange up close. The president simply began talking to the other two elected officials who were there to greet him.
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> Mayor Scott Smith of Mesa, Ariz., declined to say exactly what he heard Obama and Brewer talk about during their now-infamous tiff next to Air Force One.
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> But the mayor said he was standing right next to the governor when the exchange took place and Obama didn’t seem to be in any kind of hurry to leave.
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> “There was no sense that he was running to or from anything,” Smith told TPM. In fact, he said, the president stayed and had a pleasant conversation with Smith, who’s a Republican, and Phoenix Mayor Greg Stanton, a Democrat.
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> It was “just the four of us,” Smith said. “Mayor Stanton and I had a decent talk with him.”

]([http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/mayor\_seems\_to\_contradict\_gov\_brewers\_story\_on\_oba.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/mayor_seems_to_contradict_gov_brewers_story_on_oba.php))

Fuck you, Governor Brewer. You’re a loathsome shitstain. I don’t even know how to express my disgust that you would try and portray yourself as a victim here:

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> [@Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer](#):
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> I felt a little bit threatened, if you will, in the attitude that he had, because I was there to welcome him.

]([Arizona News](http://www.kpho.com/story/16602303/brewer))

On a side note, what the fuck is wrong with Arizona that it elects (and keeps re-electing) people like Jan Brewer and Joe Arpaio?

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/2 "2012-01-27T06:26:32Z")

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She’s so arrogant and dumb, to boot. I can’t imagine pointing my finger like that at the President! I wish he could fire her- that would be the perfect ending.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/3 "2012-01-27T06:28:27Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> On a side note, what the fuck is wrong with Arizona that it elects (and keeps re-electing) people like Jan Brewer and Joe Arpaio?

Well, it is hell on earth…

But it’s a dry heat. 🙂

As usual, the big cities are more progressive and that is the only reason that it makes it bearable to live here, and just recently the one that pushed the recent racist laws was trounced by the Republicans themselves, so there is hope.

> **[Arizona News](https://www.azfamily.com/news/Sen-Elect-Jerry-Lewis-The-voters-of-Mesa-have-spoken-133532228.html)**
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> Arizona Breaking news, local stories, and On Your Side investigations from the state’s largest television newsroom.

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> “What’s happening now with immigration law is that we’re destroying families,” he continued. “If we continue to do that, we’re going to have a lot more to worry about than just someone’s immigration status. … We need to work to keep families intact.”
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> The race turned ugly, including the introduction of a candidate named Olivia Cortes, whom many believed to be a sham funded by Pearce supporters.
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> “It was sad that it devolved down to that level,” Lewis said. “I don’t think the voters appreciated that. … I think a lot of people were turned off by it.”
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> Lewis, a Republican like Pearce, will be sworn in once the results of the election are certified.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/4 "2012-01-27T06:39:12Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Well, it is hell on earth…
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> But it’s a dry heat. 🙂

Hey, I live in Nevada; it’s pretty much the same, terrain- & temperature-wise as Arizona. For some reason tho, it just makes our politicos stupid, not mean.

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**Author:** ![palacheck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@palacheck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palacheck)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/5 "2012-01-27T06:39:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> On a side note, what the fuck is wrong with Arizona that it elects (and keeps re-electing) people like Jan Brewer and Joe Arpaio?

Not enough democrats from up north have retired there yet, and not enough northern yuppies have bought their McMansions down there yet.

Give it time, young grasshopper.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/6 "2012-01-27T06:43:01Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> But it’s a dry heat.

SWAAAAP!

Sorry, but I have lived a lifetime with **dropmom** describing a comparison of the different climates of St Paul and Chicago as a “dry heat” or a “dry cold.”

One does not swat his mom.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/7 "2012-01-27T07:17:06Z")

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I’m sorry, what’s the big deal here? Going by the title and what it inferred, I came into the thread ready to believe that she gave him the one-finger salute. Not that she actually just _pointed_ at him.

I mean, he’s the President - not the King.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/8 "2012-01-27T10:28:02Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Well, it is hell on earth…
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> But it’s a dry heat. 🙂

A blowtorch is a dry heat too.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/9 "2012-01-27T10:44:50Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> On a side note, what the fuck is wrong with Arizona that it elects (and keeps re-electing) people like Jan Brewer and Joe Arpaio?

I don’t know, but I’m glad for the election law that limits the governor to eight consecutive years in office. This includes the part of Janet Napolitano’s term that she served out before her 2010 election. So she can’t run in 2014.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/10 "2012-01-27T11:39:06Z")

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This is the same Brewer who tried to \*impeach \*the chairman of the redistricting commission for not adequately favoring the Republicans, right?

Dumbfuck.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/11 "2012-01-27T11:56:50Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> I’m sorry, what’s the big deal here? Going by the title and what it inferred, I came into the thread ready to believe that she gave him the one-finger salute. Not that she actually just _pointed_ at him.
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> I mean, he’s the President - not the King.

She’s a rabidly right-wing Republican who is happy to sign racist laws like Senate Bill 1070, the so-called “papers please” law. This law would have given local law enforcement the obligation to determine the immigration status of every person they stop, provided there is reason to question that status. In practice, this means that every person who looks Hispanic could legally be hassled by the cops. The person can be seventh-generation native-born American, the mayor of his town, and the president of the Rotary Club, but unless they can prove it to the satisfaction of the cop, they’re screwed. The law has been blocked by the federal courts as unconstitutional.

So this little temper tantrum is just the latest reason to pit a truly loathsome, worthless human being.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/12 "2012-01-27T12:08:56Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> I’m sorry, what’s the big deal here? Going by the title and what it inferred, I came into the thread ready to believe that she gave him the one-finger salute. Not that she actually just _pointed_ at him.
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> I mean, he’s the President - not the King.

It’s not really that she pointed at him. It’s that she then went to the media - I think she went of Greta Van Susteren at one point - and complained that Obama had snubbed her by walking away after a very heated exchange, saying that he was thin skinned about her book. She then complained some more about Obama, and mentioned her book (now on amazon) because Obama was unhappy with the way he was portrayed in her book (check your local walmart).

Basically she possibly misrepresented her encounter with Obama as a way to earn points (Obama bad) and sell her book (available at better book stores. Buy Local).

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/13 "2012-01-27T12:54:18Z")

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Plus, she said something to Obama like “I have the greatest respect for the office of President”… leaving the hearer to conclude ‘but I don’t have respect you’. What an ass.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/14 "2012-01-27T12:55:24Z")

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**Harborwolf** makes a good point about Jan Brewer’s contriving this entire incident in order to increase the sale of “Scorpions For Breakfast”.  
According to [this](http://www.mediaite.com/online/jan-brewers-book-up-over-150000-on-amazon-com-in-last-24-hours/) story, her Amazon book sales ranking went from a paltry #285,568 all the way up to #21 in a mere 24 hours. :mad:

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/15 "2012-01-27T13:12:19Z")

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She is a ratbag, if you will.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/16 "2012-01-27T13:31:46Z")

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It’s not the hate, it’s the stupidity.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/17 "2012-01-27T13:41:47Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> It’s not the hate, it’s the stupidity.

Kudos, sir.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/18 "2012-01-27T14:37:48Z")

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The photo doesn’t tell the whole story, because you can’t smell the withering gin fumes on her breath, nor hear her slurred threat “you wanna go? Let’s go… tell your goons to give us 10 minutes.”

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/19 "2012-01-27T14:50:17Z")

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You just know that the whole finger-pointing bit was staged so that cameras could capture that aspect of her moment of “standing up to” the big, bad, boogieman Obama.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jan-brewer-liar-and-hypocrite/610837/20 "2012-01-27T15:09:32Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> It’s not the hate, it’s the stupidity.

Called Hanlon’s Razor…

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