# Jane Stanwyck in "Barbara Frietchie"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 15, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307 "2004-07-15T19:12:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![merrily](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@merrily](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merrily)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/21 "2004-07-17T20:57:03Z")

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I noticed that a couple of websites listed the elusive Frietchie actress as the English actress _Joan_ Stanwyck. Maybe the people with access to the British sources could also try that one.

(I knew about the Barbara Frietchie website/poem–but also note that I found websites with _Fritchie_ as well. This story may be lost in spelling variations of both the names. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was really something like _Joan Stanwick_ after all.)

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/22 "2004-07-17T22:13:49Z")

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I’m at my weekly visit to the library.

_Variety Obituaries 1905-1986_. No Standwick, Standwyck, or Stanwick; the only Stanwyck entries are Barbara and producer Jay (d. 1967).

_Personal Name Index to ‘The New York Times Index’ 1851-1974_. No woman named Standwick, Standwyck, Stanwick, or Stanwyck (other than Barbara).

_The New York Times Theater Reviews/Index 1870-1919_. No Standwick, Standwyck, Stanwick, or Stanwyck. _Index 1920-1970_. Ditto, except for Barbara Stanwyck and producer Jay Stanwyck.

No Standwick, Standwyck, Stanwick, or Stanwyck in the indexes to:  
_The London Stage, 1890-1899  
The London Stage, 1900-1909  
The London Stage, 1910-1919  
The London Stage, 1920-1929  
The London Stage, 1930-1939_

_The Oxford Companion to Canadian Theatre_. No Standwick, Standwyck, Stanwick, or Stanwyck in the index.

1900 U.S. census: No Standwyck; two Standwick records: Jane H. Standwick, 58, born in New York, res. with sister Mary in Beverly, Mass., no occupation listed; 6 Stanwick households but no Jane and no actress; no Stanwyck.

1910 U.S. census: No Standwyck or Stanwyck; 5 Standwick household but no Jane and no actress; 16 Stanwick households but no Jane and no actress.

1881 census of England and Wales: No Stanwyck; Jane Standwick, 24, single, dressmaker, in Guildford, Surrey; Mary Jane Stanwick, 15, in Eldon, Durham (married in 1882); no Joan by any of the spellings.

1891 census of England and Wales: One Standwick (Lizzie, 16, in London); no Standwyck; 20 Stanwick records but no Jane or Joan and no actress; no Stanwyck.

1901 census of England and Wales: See my second posting above.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/23 "2004-07-17T22:32:52Z")

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I should add:

1901 census of England and Wales: no Joan Standw-- or Joan Stanw–.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2004, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/24 "2004-07-17T23:57:19Z")

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I’m gonna go with **Walloon** here, whom I always bow to in matters of film history and research.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/25 "2004-07-18T02:33:48Z")

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Sounds reasonable, considering that’s some damn impressive research, **Walloon**.

One request, though – would you let us know where the article will be published so we can get a copy of it (and support your writing). Thanks much.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/26 "2012-12-07T13:58:47Z")

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I caught the Barbara Stanwyck program on TCM last night. They repeated the story that [someone] came up with the name by combining two names from some old playbills. I forgot his name, but he was her manager/agent/PR person.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/27 "2012-12-07T18:58:11Z")

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I miss **Eve**. Eve, you’re probably not reading this, but on the remote chance that you are, I’m very sorry that you felt it necessary to leave us. I eagerly await your book and wish you all the best.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/28 "2012-12-07T21:29:15Z")

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> [@Governor\_Quinn](#):
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> Civil War, actually. The person existed (with a differently-spelt last name), but the story attached to her is false.

Yah. I’ve been to her house. I assume it still stands in Frederick MD.

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**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/29 "2012-12-08T03:15:35Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Yah. I’ve been to her house. I assume it still stands in Frederick MD.

It does still stand, and the [Frederick County historical society](http://www.hsfcinfo.org/) has something going on with Barbara Fritchie, correct spelling, currently. I grew up in Frederick but have never been to the house. The house is a reconstruction.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/30 "2012-12-08T04:16:23Z")

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The true story:

[Bullwinkle's Corner - Barbara Frietchie - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTAPT52aXGM)😃

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/31 "2012-12-08T05:06:41Z")

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Starting next Wednesday night (12/12) on Turner Classic Movies, 24 hours of Barbara Stanwyk movies.

> [@terentii](#):
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> The true story:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTAPT52aXGM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTAPT52aXGM)😃

I remember more history from Rocky & Bullwinkle than I learned in school.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/32 "2012-12-08T05:15:34Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Starting next Wednesday night (12/12) on Turner Classic Movies, 24 hours of Barbara Stanwyk movies.

Barbara Stanwyk, mmmmmmmmmmm!

“I’m crazy about you, baby!” 🆒

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jane-stanwyck-in-barbara-frietchie/255307/33 "2012-12-10T00:55:13Z")

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Oh, my! This doc on TCM was from 1991. I thought it was relatively recent.:o Of course, they would repeat the story of her name.

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