# Janice Rand's hair

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 11, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009 "2018-05-11T20:14:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/21 "2018-05-11T23:59:34Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Do you think Rand left the _Enterprise_ to get treatment for the Denebian black widow spider colony living in her 'do?

No, it was because Kirk wouldn’t look at her legs. ☹

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/22 "2018-05-12T00:00:36Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> [Yeoman Martha Landon](http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x05hd/theapplehd0070.jpg) had a fairly elaborate hairdo.

She looks remarkably like my high school German teacher in that photo! :o

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/23 "2018-05-12T00:21:33Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I’ve read that same information in a number of sources over the years. Roddenberry was pushing for unusual hairstyles, but the male actors pushed back, noting that they had to live normal lives outside of the studio, and didn’t want to have to deal with crazy hair. Thus, the pointed sideburns were a compromise.

James Doohan had an unappealing hair style in the third season as I recall.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/24 "2018-05-12T00:33:36Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> James Doohan had an unappealing hair style in the third season as I recall.

It was just combed back and wasn’t very flattering. In other shows of the time that I’ve seen him in, though, it was pretty much the same.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/25 "2018-05-12T00:49:45Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Actually, Rand was a distant ancestor of [Philo Farnsworth](https://pre00.deviantart.net/da84/th/pre/i/2010/049/f/6/farnsworth_coloured_by_autodach.jpg), and that was just the shape of her head.

The picture is of _Hubert_ Farnsworth. Philo is his (and Rand’s, presumably) ancestor, who invented the television camera circa 1927.

Anyway. [this guy](http://mystartrekscrapbook.blogspot.ca/2014/09/more-janice-rand-images.html) has images of a few suggested hairstyles for Rand.

And [T’Pring](http://payload310.cargocollective.com/1/14/477743/8518362/amoktimehd396_o.jpg) had a comparably elaborate 'do.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/26 "2018-05-12T02:53:47Z")

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Wigs were pretty popular in the 60s, especially beehives, so yeah, viewers might’ve just assumed it was a wig.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/27 "2018-05-12T03:02:55Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Chekhov had a Beatle cut. Soooooo dreamy:)

They wanted a “Davey Jones type” on the show to appeal to the teenage audience.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/28 "2018-05-12T03:17:54Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Roddenberry wanted even the men’s hairstyles to look exotic, but they refused to do anything other than point their sideburns.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Thus, the pointed sideburns were a compromise.

I never noticed this before, but now that I’ve read about it…watching a couple episodes I couldn’t help but notice it. (Also, Kirk had an awfully casual haircut, at least in season 3…)

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/29 "2018-05-12T03:22:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Did she have to do it up every day? Did the Enterprise have an automated hair dressing machine, like the food slots?

I distinctly remember a \*Lost in Space \*episode where Maureen and Judy had a machine that looked like a hair-dryer that they used to try out various hairdos. Hard to believe the Federation couldn’t match that technological triumph.😃

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/30 "2018-05-12T03:30:25Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> I never noticed this before, but now that I’ve read about it…watching a couple episodes I couldn’t help but notice it. (Also, Kirk had an awfully casual haircut, at least in season 3…)

Notice how the hair in his toupes got longer as the 60s progressed. 🆒

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/31 "2018-05-12T03:33:06Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I distinctly remember a \*Lost in Space \*episode where Maureen and Judy had a machine that looked like a hair-dryer that they used to try out various hairdos. Hard to believe the Federation couldn’t match that technological triumph.😃

They had to have that in _ **LiS** _, since there was no room on the _Jupiter II_ for nonessential personnel.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/32 "2018-05-12T03:42:17Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The picture is of _Hubert_ Farnsworth. Philo is his (and Rand’s, presumably) ancestor, who invented the television camera circa 1927.

You reminded me of this clip. In all seriousness, it is fascinating!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pKM4MNrB25o/hqdefault.jpg "Philo Farnsworth on I've Got A Secret") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKM4MNrB25o)

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/33 "2018-05-12T03:53:40Z")

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nm

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/34 "2018-05-12T04:02:53Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Kirk had an awfully casual haircut, at least in season 3…

It was a very popular style back in the 60s… 😃

[https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/star-trek-the-original-series-season-2-episode-15-the-trouble-with-picture-id461636764?s=612x612](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/star-trek-the-original-series-season-2-episode-15-the-trouble-with-picture-id461636764?s=612x612)

[https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jack-lord-as-steve-mcgarrett-in-the-opening-credits-of-hawaii-fiveo-picture-id477617428](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jack-lord-as-steve-mcgarrett-in-the-opening-credits-of-hawaii-fiveo-picture-id477617428)

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/35 "2018-05-12T04:03:20Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The picture is of _Hubert_ Farnsworth. Philo is his (and Rand’s, presumably) ancestor, who invented the television camera circa 1927.

That means she’s also related to Philip J. Fry. The mind boggles!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/36 "2018-05-12T04:19:48Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The picture is of _Hubert_ Farnsworth. Philo is his (and Rand’s, presumably) ancestor, who invented the television camera circa 1927.
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> Anyway. [this guy](http://mystartrekscrapbook.blogspot.ca/2014/09/more-janice-rand-images.html) has images of a few suggested hairstyles for Rand.
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> And [T’Pring](http://payload310.cargocollective.com/1/14/477743/8518362/amoktimehd396_o.jpg) had a comparably elaborate 'do.

Yeah, and there’s [Kelinda](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kelinda) in _By Any Other Name_. But there’s still plenty whose hair wouldn’t raise any eyebrows, either.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/37 "2018-05-12T06:09:40Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Yeah, and there’s [Kelinda](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kelinda) in _By Any Other Name_. But there’s still plenty whose hair wouldn’t raise any eyebrows, either.

Check this out: 😉

[http://www.heavymetal.com/news/every-space-babe-ever-ladies-of-kirk-collects-all-of-captain-kirks-conquests/](http://www.heavymetal.com/news/every-space-babe-ever-ladies-of-kirk-collects-all-of-captain-kirks-conquests/)

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/38 "2018-05-12T06:52:35Z")

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Troi had a strange _do_ at the beginning of STtNG.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/39 "2018-05-12T13:19:45Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> And [T’Pring](http://payload310.cargocollective.com/1/14/477743/8518362/amoktimehd396_o.jpg) had a comparably elaborate 'do.

Those Vulcan helmets, as do the Romulan ones in _The Enterprise Incident_ save money on pointed ears.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/janice-rands-hair/814009/40 "2018-05-12T14:22:41Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> And [T’Pring](http://payload310.cargocollective.com/1/14/477743/8518362/amoktimehd396_o.jpg) had a comparably elaborate 'do.

Here’s a [better pic of (TOS) T’Pau](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/T%27Pau?file=T%27Pau%2C_2267.jpg); I’m pretty sure that’s hair and not a helmet. 😉

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