# January 2014, Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 2, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669 "2014-01-02T00:56:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/361 "2014-01-16T17:13:04Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Was your daughter tried for your murder and acquitted?  
> IQ2: Did you find that you could get further with a kind word and a gun than a kind word alone?  
> IQ3: Is there a conversational test named after you?

1 and 2 as you said, for number 3 the conversational test I was thinking of is the Turing Test for artificial intelligence, named after **Alan Turing**  
My initial letter is C. Have at it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/362 "2014-01-16T18:03:06Z")

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IQ1: Were you the first Lord Protector??  
IQ2: Did you use a converted minesweeper to explore?  
IQ3: Did you play the oldest of three boys in a TV show?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/363 "2014-01-16T18:05:24Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the first Holy Roman Emperor?
2. Were you known for saying “Delenda est Charthago!” (Carthage must be destroyed!)?
3. Are you Rokk Krinn’s superhero name?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/364 "2014-01-16T21:23:34Z")

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Way to go, **fanganga**!

Previous IQs:

Did you have a fateful encounter in Hackensack, N.J.? - That’s where Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton had their duel (both are “A’s,” as it happens).  
Did you authorize the 54th Mass., the black infantry unit featured in the movie _Glory_? - Gov. John Andrew of Massachusetts.  
Are you the current Duke of York? - Yes, Prince Andrew.

New IQs:

In your youth, did you write a letter on university stationery that your aides later widely distributed?  
Were you the longtime secretary to that person?  
Did your lover’s wife refer to you as “the Rottweiler”?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/365 "2014-01-16T22:49:33Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the first Lord Protector??  
> IQ2: Did you use a converted minesweeper to explore?  
> IQ3: Did you play the oldest of three boys in a TV show?

I am not Oliver Cromwell  
I am not … Jacques Costeau?  
I am not … Leonardo di Caprio?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the first Holy Roman Emperor?
> 2. Were you known for saying “Delenda est Charthago!” (Carthage must be destroyed!)?
> 3. Are you Rokk Krinn’s superhero name?

I am not Charlemange  
I am not Cicero  
I don’t know to whom you refer

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> In your youth, did you write a letter on university stationery that your aides later widely distributed?  
> Were you the longtime secretary to that person?  
> Did your lover’s wife refer to you as “the Rottweiler”?

3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/366 "2014-01-16T23:13:46Z")

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IQ1: Was your best-known role that of a physician on a TV medical drama of the 1970s?  
IQ2: Are you a transsexual whose mother is a famous actress and singer?  
IQ3: Did you say, “Good night, David” as part of your broadcast?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/367 "2014-01-16T23:26:06Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the first Lord Protector??  
> IQ2: Did you use a converted minesweeper to explore?  
> IQ3: Did you play the oldest of three boys in a TV show?

> [@fanganga](#):
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> I am not Oliver Cromwell  
> I am not … Jacques Costeau?  
> I am not … Leonardo di Caprio?

Correct on Cromwell and Costeau.  
David Cassidy, who played Keith Partridge.  
DQ: Real?  
IQ1: Did you play Lionel Twain?  
IQ2: Did you and your partner often go to see Mr Whoopee for advice?  
IQ3: Did you write about John Grimes?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/368 "2014-01-16T23:59:37Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the first Holy Roman Emperor?
> 2. Were you known for saying “Delenda est Charthago!” (Carthage must be destroyed!)?
> 3. Are you Rokk Krinn’s superhero name?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> I am not Charlemange  
> I am not Cicero  
> I don’t know to whom you refer

Correct on #1  
#2 was Cato the Elder, not Cicero  
#3 was Cosmic Boy, from the Legion of Superheroes

DQs:

1. Male?
2. Does your first name start with C?

IQs:

1. Were you a 1st Century A.D. Roman Emperor?
2. Were you the wife of Agamemnon?
3. Were you a Jewish High Priest in 1 Century A.D. Jerusalem?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/369 "2014-01-17T01:41:07Z")

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Previous IQs:

In your youth, did you write a letter on university stationery that your aides later widely distributed? - Bill Clinton wrote to his draft board while at Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar.  
Were you the longtime secretary to that person? - Betty Currie, dragged into Lewinskygate, much to her chagrin.  
Did your lover’s wife refer to you as “the Rottweiler”? - Camilla Parker-Bowles, of whom Princess Diana was not a fan.

DQs:

Real?  
American?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Have you played an orphan’s sweetheart, a lawyer’s troubled young wife, and a coldhearted corporate bitch?  
Are you the current Duke of Rothesay?  
Although your first name was Stephen, did you rarely use it?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/370 "2014-01-18T01:07:51Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Was your best-known role that of a physician on a TV medical drama of the 1970s?  
> IQ2: Are you a transsexual whose mother is a famous actress and singer?  
> IQ3: Did you say, “Good night, David” as part of your broadcast?

0 for 3

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> DQ: Real?  
> IQ1: Did you play Lionel Twain?  
> IQ2: Did you and your partner often go to see Mr Whoopee for advice?  
> IQ3: Did you write about John Grimes?

0 for 3

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Correct on #1  
> #2 was Cato the Elder, not Cicero  
> #3 was Cosmic Boy, from the Legion of Superheroes
> 
> DQs:
> 
> 1. Male?
> 2. Does your first name start with C?
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a 1st Century A.D. Roman Emperor?
> 2. Were you the wife of Agamemnon?
> 3. Were you a Jewish High Priest in 1 Century A.D. Jerusalem?

I am not Caligula  
I don’t know to whom you refer  
I don’t know to whom you refer

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Previous IQs:
> 
> DQs:
> 
> Real?  
> American?
> 
> One DQ reserved.
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Have you played an orphan’s sweetheart, a lawyer’s troubled young wife, and a coldhearted corporate bitch?  
> Are you the current Duke of Rothesay?  
> Although your first name was Stephen, did you rarely use it?

DQ  
I am not… Prince Charles?  
DQ

My initial letter is C and…  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not male  
3: My first name begins with C  
4: I am not American

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/371 "2014-01-18T01:39:40Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a 1st Century A.D. Roman Emperor?
> 2. Were you the wife of Agamemnon?
> 3. Were you a Jewish High Priest in 1 Century A.D. Jerusalem?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> I am not Caligula  
> I don’t know to whom you refer  
> I don’t know to whom you refer

Right on Caligula.  
#2 was Clytemnestra.  
#3 was Caiaphas.

DQs:

1. Created in the 20th Century?
2. Originally from a literary work (that is, written rather than TV, movie, radio, etc.)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/372 "2014-01-18T02:18:46Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Did you play Lionel Twain?  
> IQ2: Did you and your partner often go to see Mr Whoopee for advice?  
> IQ3: Did you write about John Grimes?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> 0 for 3

Truman Capote, in _Murder by Death_.  
Tennessee Tuxedo’s friend Chumley.  
A Bertram Chandler.  
Three DQs pending.  
IQ1: Were you a US president whose first name was John?  
IQ2: Were you Buck’s brother (and Blanche’s brother-in-law)?  
IQ3: Did you often collaborate with Frederik Pohl?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/373 "2014-01-18T05:17:50Z")

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Previous IQs:

Have you played an orphan’s sweetheart, a lawyer’s troubled young wife, and a coldhearted corporate bitch? - Charlize Theron, in _The Cider House Rules, Devil’s Advocate_ and _Prometheus_.  
Are you the current Duke of Rothesay? - Yes, Prince Charles (it’s his Scottish title).  
Although your first name was Stephen, did you rarely use it? - Grover Cleveland.

DQs:

European?  
Would be alive today, if real?  
First appeared in a book?

IQs:

Were you a noted American abolitionist?  
Were you a person named after him and later famous in another field?  
Did you write _Vixen 03_?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/374 "2014-01-18T10:43:41Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Was your best-known role that of a physician on a TV medical drama of the 1970s?  
> IQ2: Are you a transsexual whose mother is a famous actress and singer?  
> IQ3: Did you say, “Good night, David” as part of your broadcast?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> 0 for 3

Number 1 was looking for Chad Everett, who starred in “Medical Center.” Number 2 is Chaz Bono, former female, whose mother is Cher. Number 3 is Chet Huntley, of The Huntley-Brinkley Report, on NBC News.

Three DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/375 "2014-01-18T14:10:50Z")

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Some of these IQs feel like I’ll get them with more pondering time. I’ll answer the DQs for now.

My initial letter is C and…  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not male  
3: My first name begins with C  
4: I am not American  
5: I was created in the twentieth century  
6: I originally appeared in a book  
7: I am not European  
8: My death has not been written

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/376 "2014-01-18T17:36:58Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you quoted as saying, “I’ve never been hurt by what I have not said.”?
2. Were you based on a local cheese wheel?
3. Did you utter completely true prophecies which were completely disregarded?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/377 "2014-01-18T17:37:54Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you a US president whose first name was John?  
> IQ2: Were you Buck’s brother (and Blanche’s brother-in-law)?  
> IQ3: Did you often collaborate with Frederik Pohl?

I am not John Calvin Coolidge  
pass  
pass

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Were you a noted American abolitionist?  
> Were you a person named after him and later famous in another field?  
> Did you write _Vixen 03_?

I am not … Ty Cobb the abolitionist?  
nor am I … Ty Cobb the sportsman?  
pass

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/378 "2014-01-18T19:50:09Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a noted American abolitionist? - Cassius Clay.  
Were you a person named after him and later famous in another field? - Cassius Clay AKA Muhammad Ali.  
Did you write _Vixen 03_? - Clive Cussler.

DQs:

Asian?  
Ever appeared in a big-screen movie?  
Generally considered a “good guy”?

IQs:

Were you a member of Congress who got an aircraft carrier named after him?  
Did Dame Judi Dench play you in her youth, and again in the past three months?  
Will you be starring in the upcoming movie _The Monuments Men_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/379 "2014-01-18T22:38:07Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you a US president whose first name was John?  
> IQ2: Were you Buck’s brother (and Blanche’s brother-in-law)?  
> IQ3: Did you often collaborate with Frederik Pohl?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> I am not John Calvin Coolidge  
> pass

Correct on Coolidge.  
Clyde Barrow.  
Cyril M Kornbluth.  
DQ: First appeared in print after 1950?  
Four DQs reserved.  
IQ: Are you a creation of Earl Derr Biggers?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/380 "2014-01-19T13:56:37Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you quoted as saying, “I’ve never been hurt by what I have not said.”?
> 2. Were you based on a local cheese wheel?
> 3. Did you utter completely true prophecies which were completely disregarded?

1: Pure guess here, but since so much gets attributed to him… I am not Winston Churchill  
2: All I can think of is Horace the Talking Cheese from the Tiffanny Aching books, and I doubt that’s correct  
3: I am not Cassandra.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Were you a member of Congress who got an aircraft carrier named after him?  
> Did Dame Judi Dench play you in her youth, and again in the past three months?  
> Will you be starring in the upcoming movie _The Monuments Men_?

1: There are so few aircraft carriers I should know this, but I’m drawing a blank…mostly Presidents who came up through governorships or the Senate… Was Nimitz elected to Congress, and did he have a first name beginning with C? I’m going to guess Chester Nimitz.  
2: Another guess… Cordelia from King Lear?  
3: And a third guess… Cate Blanchett?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Correct on Coolidge.  
> Clyde Barrow.  
> Cyril M Kornbluth.  
> DQ: First appeared in print after 1950?  
> Four DQs reserved.  
> IQ: Are you a creation of Earl Derr Biggers?

pass

My initial letter is C and…  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not male  
3: My first name begins with C  
4: I am not American  
5: I was created in the twentieth century  
6: I originally appeared in a book  
7: I am not European  
8: My death has not been written  
9: I am not Asian  
10: I have not appeared in a big-screen movie  
11: I am generally not considered a goodie  
12: My first appearance in print was after 1950

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