# January 2014, Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 2, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669 "2014-01-02T00:56:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/401 "2014-01-21T04:06:26Z")

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I have three, as well, but we only get twenty total, so there’s just one DQ left to be asked.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/402 "2014-01-21T12:47:27Z")

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I think I still have at least a half-dozen.  
Might it help if we knew the sex of the author?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/403 "2014-01-21T12:56:55Z")

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In the past DQs that take the total beyond 20 have been answered, but I don’t know if there’s a rule for it. Maybe I could allow each individual to ask as many as would take the total to 20 if they were the only one asking?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/404 "2014-01-21T16:38:09Z")

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Very generous of you - thanks!

DQs:

Is the author male?  
First appearance after 1980?  
Did she kill or cause the death of anybody?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/405 "2014-01-21T17:06:50Z")

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My intention was less generous than you seem to have interpreted it. In retrospect, I should have said “I could allow each individual to ask as many as would take the total to 20 if they were the only one asking **from that point on**?” So if someone takes the total to twenty, other players can ask DQs as if that person hasn’t asked - so in this case, I’m allowing each player 1 DQ. Pick one of your 3.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/406 "2014-01-21T17:39:25Z")

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If I were hosting, and came home to find enough DQs waiting for me to bring the total up to say, 21-25, I would answer all of them (and have done so). On the other hand, once the current total - and the remainder to 20 - has been pointed out to everyone, then I would start with the first question asked and continue until there were exactly 20.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/407 "2014-01-21T17:53:32Z")

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Okely-dokely.

DQ:

Is the author male?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/408 "2014-01-21T18:08:06Z")

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My initial letter is C and…  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not male  
3: My first name begins with C  
4: I am not American  
5: I was created in the twentieth century  
6: I originally appeared in a book  
7: I am not European  
8: My death has not been written  
9: I am not Asian  
10: I have not appeared in a big-screen movie  
11: I am generally not considered a goodie  
12: My first appearance in print was after 1950  
13: I appeared in a book by an American author  
14: I am from a work of Science Fiction or Fantasy  
15: I am not the main character  
16: I am human  
17: As a consequence of 14, my life can’t be put on a timeline that features today.  
18: I am from a work of Fantasy, rather than Science Fiction  
19: I would generally be considered a villain.  
20: My author is male.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/409 "2014-01-21T19:10:53Z")

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DQ: First appearance after 1980?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/410 "2014-01-21T19:13:25Z")

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Hmmm. Jordan? Martin? I haven’t read any of their books. What other men have been writing fantasy? I can mostly only think of female fantasy authors…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/411 "2014-01-21T19:37:28Z")

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Well, there’s Piers Anthony’s _Xanth_ series, Asprin’s _Myth Adventures_, Peter S. Beagle’s _The Last Unicorn_, Bellairs’ _The Face in the Frost_, Bradbury’s _Something Wicked This Way Comes_, and so on.

But I’m not coming up with a villainess whose first or only name starts with C yet.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/412 "2014-01-21T20:01:53Z")

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My initial letter is C and…  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not male  
3: My first name begins with C  
4: I am not American  
5: I was created in the twentieth century  
6: I originally appeared in a book  
7: I am not European  
8: My death has not been written  
9: I am not Asian  
10: I have not appeared in a big-screen movie  
11: I am generally not considered a goodie  
12: My first appearance in print was after 1950  
13: I appeared in a book by an American author  
14: I am from a work of Science Fiction or Fantasy  
15: I am not the main character  
16: I am human  
17: As a consequence of 14, my life can’t be put on a timeline that features today.  
18: I am from a work of Fantasy, rather than Science Fiction  
19: I would generally be considered a villain.  
20: My author is male.  
21: The first book in which I appeared was published after 1980

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/413 "2014-01-21T20:52:33Z")

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IQ: Are you Joffrey’s mother by your brother Jaime?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/414 "2014-01-21T21:22:17Z")

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Welcome back, Le Ministre! As for your guess, my own reaction is :smack:!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/415 "2014-01-21T21:29:13Z")

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Ooo. That could be it!

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/416 "2014-01-21T22:40:56Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you Joffrey’s mother by your brother Jaime?

I am indeed Cersei Lannister, Queen of Westeros ! Congratulations, Ministre!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/417 "2014-01-21T22:50:26Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> I am indeed Cersei Lannister, Queen of Westeros ! Congratulations, Ministre!

What book is that?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/418 "2014-01-21T22:51:00Z")

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Well, _that_ is a fun way to come back to one of my favourite games!!

I’m going to go away and have a think, and start a new round either late tonight or early tomorrow.  
My apologies for a long absence, my friends. I have been rather swamped of late. However, the website is launched, my current show has opened, and my CD launches in a few weeks - I have a little more time to spare now.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> What book is that?

It’s a whole series, “A Song of Ice and Fire”, by George R. R. Martin. The series is better known as “A Game of Thrones”, the title of the first book. I think the telly series is just called “Game of Thrones”.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/419 "2014-01-22T01:20:41Z")

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Way to go, **Le Ministre**! Looking forward to the next round!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-2014-botticelli/677669/420 "2014-01-22T02:23:35Z")

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Likewise - good job! Kicking myself that I didn’t get her. I’m a _Game of Thrones_ fan from 'way back.

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