# January 6th Hearing-Adjacent Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 12, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829 "2022-07-12T16:20:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/201 "2022-07-24T16:02:09Z")
That whole statement has a very distinct whiff of Agent Orange on it. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/202 "2022-07-24T16:07:59Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > That letter reads as if Melania just found out about the riot because of the hearings. > [@Horatius](#): > > And she says she’d have “immediately” condemned the violence “if she knew about it”, but in reality, it took her several days to even mention it… Yet, as I noted in the Melania thread, her chief of staff resigned on January 6th, “effective immediately”, as if something intolerable had happened that day. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/203 "2022-07-24T16:51:21Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > That whole statement has a very distinct whiff of Agent Orange on it. Stench. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/204 "2022-07-24T16:55:16Z")
I guess we’ll never know what exactly trump’s big plan was if the SS had taken him to the Capitol. Stand on the steps with a bullhorn? Walk in and have himself crowned King Shitgibbon the first? Or maybe do some crowd surfing? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/205 "2022-07-24T17:25:13Z")
I do think in all seriousness that he envisioned being crowned President For Life in the Senate chambers. Trump is not right in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/206 "2022-07-24T17:40:26Z")
What is so unsettling to me is how few people seem to notice this. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/207 "2022-07-24T18:28:06Z")
Is there an account of the meeting in which Pence was first told what role he was to play on the 6th? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/208 "2022-07-24T23:13:25Z")
Did you notice how much her signature resembles the spiky aggressive hostility of her husband’s? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/209 "2022-07-24T23:33:46Z")
I’m confident she did not write a word of this. It sounds exactly like The Donald dictating to some flunky. I would not be at all surprised is someone else signed it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/210 "2022-07-25T00:02:22Z")
She has the same entitled and smug, condescending sense of perpetual victimhood that her husband does. Though I think she didn’t take part in the coup attempt, I sure as hell hope so and put her ass in prison along with him. Yes, that signature is eerily similar to her bitter half. I guess making a signature legible is for lesser creatures such as ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/211 "2022-07-25T06:30:51Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Did you notice how much her signature resembles the spiky aggressive hostility of her husband’s? I looked up her signature for reference and found this article. > **[Melania Trump's Jan. 6 Statement Reignites Suspicions About Her Signature:...](https://www.thewrap.com/melania-trump-signature-looks-like-donalds-jan-6/)** > > Many social media sleuths believe the former president has been forging his wife's signature for years I think it’s just laziness for both of them. Write out actual letters? That’s too much effort. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/212 "2022-07-25T13:08:58Z")
As a person with a barely\* legible signature, I resent these smears against my kind. \* As in you might be able to work out the first letters of my first and last name… if you’re lucky ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/213 "2022-07-25T13:19:46Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > - As in you might be able to work out the first letters of my first and last name… if you’re lucky Yeah, I’m the same. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/214 "2022-07-25T15:06:00Z")
If you can read the signature, I didn’t sign there. I used to have a legible signature. Then I got a job where I had to sign things dozens of time a day. Things smoothed out after that. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/215 "2022-07-25T15:10:07Z")
Moderating: This is posted in the OP. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > This thread is not intended as a catch-all for anything you’d like to post about Donald Trump or things not pertaining in some way to the January 6th hearings… Please make sure your post includes at least some tangential relationship to issues arising from those hearings. We seem to have wandered far afield of the stated intention of this thread. Please adhere to the above-referenced instructions of the OP, or this thread will also be closed. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/216 "2022-07-25T17:20:06Z")
Retracted. Probably best posted somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/217 "2022-07-25T18:35:55Z")
The J6C has released a draft of Trumps’ Jan 7 “national healing” remarks – the one in the “outtakes” video. The draft has even more stuff crossed out because Trump couldn’t stomach saying things like “these people belong in jail”. But what surprised me is something that he left in: that he “immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement” when he did nothing of the sort. > **[Jan. 6 committee releases draft of 'National Healing' speech edited by Trump](https://news.yahoo.com/jan-6-trump-edits-draft-speech-remarks-on-national-healing-160114073.html)** > > The House select committee has released more evidence showing then-President Donald Trump's reluctance to harshly condemn the violent mob of his supporters the day after their assault on the U.S. Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/218 "2022-07-25T18:39:57Z")
It’s not as immediately noticeable but I think the most important element was that he refused to say, “these people do not represent me”. Adding in all other evidence, it seems to be clear that the rioters did represent him (in his own mind) and if their actions are provably criminal then that’s _mens rea_. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/219 "2022-07-26T15:37:14Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > But what surprised me is something that he left in: that he “immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement” when he did nothing of the sort. Why does this surprise you in the least? That was his ENTIRE Presidency - “My inauguration crowds were the largest!” when they can EASILY be proven false. He did that again and again and again. Saying the same thing over and over did not make it true, but it made it true in the “minds” (and I use that word loosely) of his followers. He said he immediately deployed the NG; they all believe that he did 'cause he said it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/220 "2022-07-26T16:54:38Z")
It must give cult leaders a terrific sense of power when they tell their cult members something that is obviously, provably, known to be false, and they accept this bullshit without question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829.md?page=12)