# January 6th Hearing-Adjacent Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 12, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829 "2022-07-12T16:20:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/281 "2022-08-03T19:46:06Z")

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I think more likely connections to people who have connections to people. They got **all** of his texts. There could be gold buried in there. Won’t know until somebody digs.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/282 "2022-08-03T19:48:25Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> What’s Jones’ connection to any of the J6 players?

Knowledge of funding of the rallies:

> **[January 6 Committee Issues 5 New Subpoenas to Roger Stone and Alex Jones](https://www.newsweek.com/january-6-committee-issues-5-new-subpoenas-includes-roger-stone-alex-jones-1652191)**
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> Five allies to former President Donald Trump, including political consultant Roger Stone and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, were issued subpoenas.

I would assume that they were told that there were no relevant communications to produce, and had to accept that.

Given that they seemed ready to go, plausibly, they’ve been informed that there are relevant texts in there.

Unrelated but apparently this also happened recently, in case anyone else missed it:

> **[Alex Jones' Ex-Wife Says She Has 'Insider Info' for Jan. 6 Committee](https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-ex-wife-says-has-insider-info-january-6-committee-1724198)**
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> The conspiracy theorist promoted Donald Trump's tweet calling supporters to come to a "wild" protest on January 6, 2021..

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/283 "2022-08-03T19:54:02Z")

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> **[Alex Jones faces two more defamation trials](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial-bankston-latest-b2140389.html)**
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> It transpired during trial that his own lawyer mistakenly shared entire contents of Jones’ phone with opposition legal team

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> During questioning Jones was confronted not just with what he had said about Sandy Hook, but also about the judge and jury in the case. It also transpired that his own lawyer had mistakenly shared the entire contents of Jones’ phone with the opposition legal team — this is now reportedly being sought by the House select committee looking into the events surrounding 6 January 2021 in Washington, DC, when Jones was in the city.

Jones is in some deep shit. And he’s enough of a nonideological grifter than he might be flippable.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/284 "2022-08-03T19:56:30Z")

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Also, watching the judge rip into Jones for lying is pretty fun, and doesn’t bode well for him in the trial outcome.

> <https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1554856818450612225>

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/285 "2022-08-03T20:53:02Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I would assume that they were told that there were no relevant communications to produce, and had to accept that.
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> Given that they seemed ready to go, plausibly, they’ve been informed that there are relevant texts in there.

[https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1554901464899887104](https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1554901464899887104)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/286 "2022-08-03T20:57:11Z")

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I have to assume that there is a lot of pants-shitting going on at the moment, among all those who communicated with Alex Jones in the run-up to the attempted insurrection.

And probably others as well. There’s a lot of potential exposure here.

I wonder if one of his lawyers decided to blow the whistle to cover his own ass. If the lawyer was being asked to knowingly conceal evidence (the phone records had been supoenaed I think), then…

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
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Oh, this is juicy, juicy goodness. I hope they uncover a trove of incriminating and embarrassing texts.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/288 "2022-08-03T21:13:43Z")

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I wonder if they’re going to call the fallout from this The Second Jonestown Massacre.

ETA: Here’s Rolling Stone’s take.

> **[Exclusive: Jan. 6 Committee Prepares to Subpoena Alex Jones' Texts, Emails](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/alex-jones-cell-phone-jan6-committee-subpoeana-1392270/)**
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> Jones’ lawyers in a Sandy Hook defamation case fumbled three years worth of texts and emails. The committee would like to know more about any contacts with Donald Trump’s team regarding…

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/289 "2022-08-03T21:17:39Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/MikeCleveIand/status/1554878894536286215>

There’s video in the Tweet.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/290 "2022-08-03T21:22:06Z")

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Exclusive: Jan. 6 Committee Prepares to Subpoena Alex Jones’ Texts, Emails

I guess they can’t now pull the “ohh, we wiped them by mistake” ploy.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/291 "2022-08-03T21:41:42Z")

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Not when people have copies, no.

Isn’t it _sweet_?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/292 "2022-08-03T21:52:51Z")

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What will tucker say??! That is their biggest worry. It is to laugh.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
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Pretty sure that the one’s speaking are the Sandy Hook attorneys, and pretty sure they’re mocking Tucker.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
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Watch the edges over the next couple of days. Over the weekend we might see a whole 'nother layer of conspirators peeled away and looking to cut deals to keep their pasty white asses out of prison.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/295 "2022-08-03T22:23:01Z")

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Is Jones really going to have damning Jan 6-related texts from major players on his phone? He’s a clown and anyone in Trump’s inner circle knew it. Maybe I’ll be surprised, but I can’t imagine they were planning the coup with him.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/296 "2022-08-03T22:23:28Z")

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Truly hope Ginni Thomas is shitting bricks…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> He’s a clown and anyone in Trump’s inner circle knew it.

Yes, but Trump’s inner circle is an insane clown posse.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/298 "2022-08-03T22:24:59Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Is Jones really going to have damning Jan 6-related texts from major players on his phone? He’s a clown and anyone in Trump’s inner circle knew it. Maybe I’ll be surprised, but I can’t imagine they were planning the coup with him.

He has already been subpoenaed, specifically for his knowledge about the organization and funding of the ‘rally’ portion of the Insurrection.

> **[January 6 Committee Issues 5 New Subpoenas to Roger Stone and Alex Jones](https://www.newsweek.com/january-6-committee-issues-5-new-subpoenas-includes-roger-stone-alex-jones-1652191)**
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> Five allies to former President Donald Trump, including political consultant Roger Stone and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, were issued subpoenas.

Hence my comment about Ginni Thomas…

If he told the J6 committee the same thing he has been saying to the Sandy Hook lawyers, i.e., “I have noTHINK!”… which is a reasonable assumption… then, yes, they will want to review this data.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/299 "2022-08-03T22:29:48Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Yes, but Trump’s inner circle is an insane clown posse.

True, Sidney Kraken or Patrick Byrne aren’t exactly known for their rational behavior. But they are desperate to be important, and Alex Jones is a step down for them.

Ginni Thomas…now that’s interesting. She’s the right mix of inner circle and clueless.

Regardless, his phone should be a trove of data and absolutely needs to be reviewed. But I’m not expecting the smoking gun that convicts any of the big guys.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/300 "2022-08-03T22:43:44Z")

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Lol.

Seriously. ‘Smoking gun?’

You were the first one to respond here, literally:

> [@The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-american-coup-11-9-2020/925182):
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> thinking Trump fired his Secretary of Defense, replaced Esper with Chris Miller. This is a totally normal thing for an outgoing President to prioritize. Esper then says, in an interview in Military Times, that for the George Floyd protests he (Esper) would not support Trump’s desire to invoke the Insurrection Act against the Floyd protesters: [[Google Photos] ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/9xqbCpACp8jJAxHG6) We know if you’re Donald Trump and you want troops on the streets for a Portland police stat…

So it’s not like you’re new to this topic. After all this… including the massive interdepartmental deletion of phone and text records which has been revealed _just this past week alone_… what more do you need?

Now, whether or not they are _indicted_ is another matter. But if this ever goes to trial, the massive amount of data overrides any reasonable doubt even if there is no recording of DJT giving specific orders.

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