# January 6th Hearing-Adjacent Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 12, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829 "2022-07-12T16:20:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/321 "2022-08-08T23:18:37Z")
Realistically, this could be about Trump’s destruction of documents protected by the Presidential Records Act. It would be amusing if such a petty and easily-proved crime ended up having been the entry hole to a warrant that got him on a variety of other things. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/322 "2022-08-08T23:19:10Z")
I’ve started a new thread. > [@FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence (August 8, 2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-08-08-22/969329): > > Courtesy of @JohnT, there is a statement on Twitter purported to be issued by Trump stating his residence is being searched by the FBI: This is huge. I note he was treated exactly the same as any other target of a warrant. Personally, I’m so glad to see it. The only surprise to me is that it has happened so soon. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/323 "2022-08-08T23:22:19Z")
Posts regarding the January 6th Committee hearings and what is revealed by them belong in the January 6th Hearing threads. Posts regarding what DOJ is doing, which is its own investigation with its own consequences, belong in the FBI Search and Seizure thread. They are two separate investigations with two separate goals. Hope this clarifies. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/324 "2022-08-08T23:28:02Z")
Sorry, I was very unclear. Please forgive the misunderstanding. I meant what is the difference between a hearing and a trial? To me they are both very similar events that take place in the same kind of courtroom. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Posts regarding what DOJ is doing, which is its own investigation with its own consequences, belong in the FBI Search and Seizure thread. What I was trying to convey is that I am looking forward to a time when those investigations lead to a different set of [hearings/trials??] conducted by DOJ. For now a brief description of the difference between the two official proceedings is what I am asking about. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/325 "2022-08-08T23:30:26Z")
Trials can be characterized as hearings, but usually when someone discusses ‘hearings,’ they are referring to other proceedings such as hearings on motions, preliminary hearings, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/326 "2022-08-08T23:31:27Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/327 "2022-08-08T23:43:58Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > …because I paused it for a shower earlier… Sorry, but bathing is not permitted when news is breaking… 🚿 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/328 "2022-08-08T23:44:23Z")
LOL, so I’m learning!! ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/329 "2022-08-08T23:51:05Z")
Was Rachel Maddow with you? I’m expecting to see her, but she’s not on air so far. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/330 "2022-08-09T00:00:04Z")
I am anticipating her show. Annnnticipaaaation… ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/331 "2022-08-09T00:00:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Sorry, but bathing is not permitted when news is breaking… 🚿 On the contrary, take another shower and see what the DOJ does! Perhaps an arrest warrant or a smoking gun will be announced. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/332 "2022-08-09T00:19:15Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Realistically, this could be about Trump’s destruction of documents protected by the Presidential Records Act. > > It would be amusing if such a petty and easily-proved crime ended up having been the entry hole to a warrant that got him on a variety of other things. In other words, Trump’s going to be Al Caponed! ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/333 "2022-08-09T00:23:18Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Trump’s going to be Al Caponed! Apparently, all the effort spent on Capone was a bit of a waste. The guy was almost a vegetable by the time he was in jail, because of mental damage due to syphilis. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/334 "2022-08-09T00:41:40Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The guy was almost a vegetable by the time he was in jail, because of mental damage due to syphilis. The more things change, the more they stay the same… So, if the Feds execute a warrant to search for presidential records Trump should have kept, but find evidence of Russian collusion or instigation of the Jan 6 insurrection, will it be like the cops getting a warrant to find illegal guns and finding heroin? How would this play out? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/335 "2022-08-09T00:50:42Z")
Anything is fair game if it is in the warrant’s parameters. An example would be if you have a warrant for a car, anything you find in the car is fair game. That which is not in the car… the kitchen of the house the car may be parked in, is not. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/336 "2022-08-09T01:02:37Z")
So it may depend on how the warrant is specifically worded. If it’s “to search Mar-A-Lago” anything is fair game. If it’s “looking for documents from the Trump Administration that belong in the National Archives”… It could be that they had to word the warrant very narrowly in order to get a judge to sign off on it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/337 "2022-08-09T01:06:26Z")
Moderating: Please discuss things pertaining to the execution of the search warrant at Mar-A-Lago in this thread: > [@FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence (August 8, 2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-08-08-22/969329): > > Courtesy of @JohnT, there is a statement on Twitter purported to be issued by Trump stating his residence is being searched by the FBI: This is huge. I note he was treated exactly the same as any other target of a warrant. Personally, I’m so glad to see it. The only surprise to me is that it has happened so soon. The thread you are in is dedicated to discussion of January 6th hearing matters, which is a different investigation. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/338 "2022-08-09T01:09:12Z")
So many investigations … it’s like Christmas! 🎄 ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/339 "2022-08-09T01:12:59Z")
If in searching his safe for the archives, they come across information on 6 Jan that is fair game. They would be archival documents of trump’s time in the White House. I’m sure everyone on the Jan 6 committee is paying close attention. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-hearing-adjacent-discussion-thread/967829/340 "2022-08-09T01:13:53Z")
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