# January 6th insurgent shoots at cops, lives through it

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 20, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988 "2023-04-20T21:44:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/1 "2023-04-20T21:44:38Z")

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Press release doesn’t even specify if he was arrested on the scene or not. Probably, I guess. But kinda surprised the cops didn’t put 17,893 rounds into the house.

> About an hour later, at approximately 9:38 p.m., Mr. Pelham – a previously convicted felon – walked onto the porch and allegedly fired towards several deputies, who could be heard on body-worn camera video noting bullets “whiz” by them. A deputy instructed Mr. Pelham to put his gun down, but he continued to waive it until re-entering his home. At 10:46 p.m., Mr. Pelham again exited the residence and fired multiple rounds.
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> Law enforcement departed at 12:21 a.m. without any injuries.

> **[U.S. Capitol Breach Defendant Charged in Texas After Firing Handgun Towards...](https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/us-capitol-breach-defendant-charged-texas-after-firing-handgun-towards-law-enforcement)**
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> A United States Capitol breach defendant who allegedly fired several shots towards law enforcement days before his first court appearance has been charged with a federal firearm crime. 

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/2 "2023-04-20T21:49:55Z")

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I didn’t think shooting at people was a crime in Texas. Isn’t that what they want all those guns for?

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/3 "2023-04-20T22:06:58Z")

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Let me guess. Pelham is 🤔 🤔 🤔 white?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/4 "2023-04-20T22:08:01Z")

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Huh. Apparently there **are** limits to “stand your ground” and “castle defense”.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/5 "2023-04-23T18:43:13Z")

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How does one notice a bullet whizzing by? I don’t think you could hear it after the noise of the gunshot. And if you can see a bullet going by, your eye sight is much better than mine.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/6 "2023-04-23T20:42:49Z")

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“OK sir, we’ll come back later then”

As has already been said, this would have gone very differently if a (brown) suspect was wanted for trespassing at the local pool. \< blam blam blam \> “ummm. I was… afraid for my life! Ya, that’s it.”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/7 "2023-04-23T20:50:09Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Let me guess. Pelham is 🤔 🤔 🤔 white? -

That’s why they didn’t take him 1-2-3.

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**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/8 "2023-04-23T20:54:04Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> How does one notice a bullet whizzing by? I don’t think you could hear it after the noise of the gunshot. And if you can see a bullet going by, your eye sight is much better than mine.

If the shooter is far enough away that the sound of the gun going off is not concurrent with the bullet going by you can definately hear it. It sounds like a very angry, very fast bee.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/9 "2023-04-23T21:44:31Z")

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Seems to me it’s more like a whip cracking.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/10 "2023-04-23T21:59:44Z")

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Have been shot at, can confirm.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/11 "2023-04-23T22:41:03Z")

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I’ve never been shot at, but I think that it depends on whether the bullet is subsonic or supersonic. A supersonic bullet probably would sound like a whip cracking (which is, after all, also supersonic), but a subsonic bullet might make a more buzzing sound.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/12 "2023-04-23T23:23:09Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That’s why they didn’t take him 1-2-3.

Well, _I_ got it anyway.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/13 "2023-04-24T00:22:03Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > Let me guess. Pelham is 🤔 🤔 🤔 white? -
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> That’s why they didn’t take him 1-2-3.

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Well, _I_ got it anyway.

👏👏👏

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/14 "2023-04-27T21:19:59Z")

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I didn’t ask what kind of bullets they were using.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/january-6th-insurgent-shoots-at-cops-lives-through-it/982988/15 "2023-04-28T12:46:50Z")

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Haha! Just love how deadpan this post is.
