# Japanese.  Tentacle.  Porn.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 6, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665 "2006-06-06T20:13:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/41 "2006-06-08T15:56:44Z")

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Well, here just to show the difference between “Tentacle sex” and “Octopus sex”, some examples from the modern day.

First is the ONLY piece of modern day octopus/traditional style tentacle sex I have ever seen (though admittedly I haven’t searched about for it):

Not safe for work!  
{http}://www.momopla.net/hcg04.htm

While as these are standard modern day stuff (which I could find thousands of examples of):

Not safe for work!  
{http}://www.alpha-net.ne.jp/users2/evans/gallery/Adult/19syokusyu\_up.jpg  
{http}://blackdog.sakura.ne.jp/uch/cg/myself\_p/bd144e.jpg  
{http}://www1.odn.ne.jp/jaken/ten/gazo/kuno1.jpg

Women, whaddya say?

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/42 "2006-06-08T22:16:20Z")

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What’s the weird part, the tentacles or the rape? Because the tentacles thing is incredibly foreign to me; it’s odd and in a way really fascinating to me that such a thing became an archetype in Japanese culture, when it’s something so utterly different than what our archetypes are.

Rape fantasy, on the other hand, isn’t particularly surprising to me at all. Lots of people get off on that kind of thing.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/43 "2006-06-08T23:21:08Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> What’s the weird part, the tentacles or the rape? Because the tentacles thing is incredibly foreign to me; it’s odd and in a way really fascinating to me that such a thing became an archetype in Japanese culture, when it’s something so utterly different than what our archetypes are.

That I can tell it’s not really a big fetish here. You hear about Tentacle Sex a lot more outside of Japan than you do inside it. Living here, I would never define it as a mainline fetish like nekomimi or even the whole tying up thing. In general, as you said, if people want to have a rape fantasy, they just draw up some males to commit rape. Most don’t feel the need to bring in Cthulu for this.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/44 "2006-06-08T23:47:09Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> :rolleyes: Tentacles as big, giant, flexible fingers? What a shock. What, you don’t use your fingers in sex? How… ascetic.

_Somebody_ sure sounds defensive. Tell me, can you dance?

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/45 "2006-06-08T23:53:45Z")

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> [@Sage Rat](#):
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> That I can tell it’s not really a big fetish here. You hear about Tentacle Sex a lot more outside of Japan than you do inside it. Living here, I would never define it as a mainline fetish like nekomimi or even the whole tying up thing. In general, as you said, if people want to have a rape fantasy, they just draw up some males to commit rape. Most don’t feel the need to bring in Cthulu for this.

Great! For your information, I was _enjoying_ exoticizing Japanese culture. I _liked_ the idea of an island filled with yellow, sexually perverse dwarves! Now I’m going to have to regard them as human beings.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/46 "2006-06-09T01:29:38Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> **Sage Rat** , did you ever catch the old _Gilgamesh Night_ show? […]  
> Man, Japanese TV used to be great.

For my first year of college (97-98) I would go to sleep after I got home from school and then wake up around 11 and watch the prime time TV shows (I recognize the Gigamesh name, but they’re all rather blurred in my head.) The total variety show/“we’ll humiliate ourselves in any way to get viewers to watch us for the two seconds between when they got home and when they go to bed”-ness of it all though eventually made me start feeling almost sea sick to turn it on. I haven’t been much of a TV person since.

_instead getting pulled in by the everpowerful World of Warcraft_

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/47 "2006-06-09T02:12:35Z")

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I hate to admit it, but I’ve been looking up this rope thing. Wow. It’s like Zen bondage. Who has the time for this?

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/48 "2006-06-09T02:13:59Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Now I’m going to have to regard them as human beings.

Glad you’ve got us all figured out.

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**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/49 "2006-06-09T03:15:12Z")

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A lot of other people have responded with pretty good explanations, but yeah, it’s basically a combined metaphor for bondage, dominance, and rape fantasies.

Although, I should point out that I’ve seen more than a few Japanese Hentai-Manga (pornographic comics) in which the female isn’t unwilling at all. “Tentacle Fiend” features a 20-something girl keeping a tentacle-monster against her father’s wishes, for example.

Also, in the true spirit of rape fantasy, more often than not a more appropriate term would be **seduction** ; while in the Anime it’s often full-on tentacle rape, in Manga the girl often gets pretty into it mid-way through and by the end is usually glad it happened.

\<_\< \>_\> ^\_^; What? don’t judge me!

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/50 "2006-06-09T05:31:00Z")

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I love tentacle on boy stuff myself. Like H3Knuckles said, it isn’t always presented as rape, sometimes they love it from the beginning and other times they get into it after it starts. Tentacles can come from many different sources, so it isn’t always beastiallic. I view tentacle sex the same as gang bang in that it is about complete submission.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/51 "2006-06-09T11:57:48Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> I _liked_ the idea of an island filled with yellow, sexually perverse dwarves!

Read Tolkien.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/52 "2006-06-09T12:08:03Z")

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> [@kimera](#):
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> I love tentacle on boy stuff myself.

I haven’t seen any tentace on boy stuff. Any links? _is secure in his heterosexuality_

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/53 "2006-06-09T22:02:42Z")

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Quoth **even sven** :

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> All kink is based on power relations- and not always tilted towards being in power.

That depends on how strictly you define “kink”. Etymologically, one could make the case that “kink” or “kinky” refers specifically to bondage (the origin is the same as for “kink” as a snarl in a garden hose or rope: The original meaning is knot). And of course, in bondage, at least one person ends up tied up, while at least one person remains free, to do the tying, so power relations are pretty inherent, there. On the other hand, if you define “kink” as any sort of non-mainstream sexual act, well, there’s some solo stuff that’s pretty non-mainstream, and I’m not sure how you can have power relations with only one person.

Quoth **bup** :

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> Octopi are much more prevalent in Japanese consciousness than they are here. Whereas many people (me) think of them in the same taxonomy (family slimae) as slugs, snails, and earthworms, they’re probably not so nightmarish to the socialized Japanese.

While octopodes are taxonomically related to slugs and snails, it’s the same phylum, not family (molluscae, which also includes clams, conches, and cuttlefish). And earthworms are annelids, a completely different family.

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**Author:** ![DaveRaver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daveraver/32/1078_2.png) [@DaveRaver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveRaver)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/54 "2006-06-10T00:01:16Z")

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Octopussy.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/55 "2006-06-10T01:57:35Z")

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> [@H3Knuckles](#):
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> Although, I should point out that I’ve seen more than a few Japanese Hentai-Manga (pornographic comics) in which the female isn’t unwilling at all. “Tentacle Fiend” features a 20-something girl keeping a tentacle-monster against her father’s wishes, for example.

As a _pet_?

“I’m sorry Daddy, he just followed me home and he was so cute!” That sort of thing???

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/56 "2006-06-10T02:22:21Z")

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“If you love me, daddy…”

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/57 "2006-06-10T02:23:35Z")

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“Papa, don’t preach! I’m keeping my baby!  
I’m gonna keep my baby!”  
Dear God I about killed myself with that one.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/58 "2006-06-10T03:39:58Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Can’t believe nobody has done this yet . . .l  
> **BAND NAME!**

Why can’t you believe it? It’s a very common and old phrase… so common that there probably ARE bands named that. Typically the “BAND NAME!” thing gets thrown out when someone coins a new phrase.

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**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/59 "2006-06-10T13:22:17Z")

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> [@H3Knuckles](#):
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> Although, I should point out that I’ve seen more than a few Japanese Hentai-Manga (pornographic comics) in which the female isn’t unwilling at all. “Tentacle Fiend” features a 20-something girl keeping a tentacle-monster against her father’s wishes, for example.

Classic! Every so often someone ends up requesting it on 4chan.

/4chan. Not to be looked up by Loopydude

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/60 "2006-06-10T13:41:31Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> …also allows women to swallow it…

And the nominees for most casualy ironic turn of phrase are…

> [@Renee](#):
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> erotic anime drawings people who had recently had arms and legs amputated

…and that’s part of the fetish above mentioned as “guro” (which gets even worse, trust me). Then again that particular deviation happens also in Western comic-porn circles.  
But yes, there is a tradition of representations of exaggerated bizarre erotica dating to the past, that when combined with modern social and media trends gives Japanese comic porn its particular flavor.

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