# Japanese. Tentacle. Porn. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 6, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665 "2006-06-06T20:13:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/61 "2006-06-10T14:37:26Z")
> [@archmichael](#): > > /4chan. Not to be looked up by Loopydude Can’t…stop…damn you! ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/62 "2006-06-10T14:49:20Z")
I am surprised that **kawaiitentaclemonster** has not put in an appearance here. As for “tentacle on boy” porn, I had the misfortune once of checking out a link to a “shota” site which was posted on a board I moderated. Suffice it to say that the NAMBLA people would have enjoyed it – a tentacle monster seizing a boy, retaining his limbs with four tentacles while penetrating him anally with another and masturbating him to orgasm with a sixth, was _mild_ compared to some of the images. :eek: (Needless to say, that link got deleted!) It was mentioned in that thread that at one point, actual penetration by a penis was considered obscene, while depiction of genitalia, anuses, etc. – and their penetration by other objects – was not, in Japanese standards. So a great number of phallic objects found their way into Japanese erotic art. How accurate this information is, I cannot validate – but I report it as of interest in connection with this discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/63 "2006-06-10T16:13:14Z")
> [@H3Knuckles](#): > > Although, I should point out that I’ve seen more than a few Japanese Hentai-Manga (pornographic comics) in which the female isn’t unwilling at all. “Tentacle Fiend” features a 20-something girl keeping a tentacle-monster against her father’s wishes, for example. Then there’s [Ghastly’s Ghastly Comic](http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20010510.html), which includes a female character with a heavy tentacle rape/sex fetish. Another funny one is [here](http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20051211.html). I like the one with the Dalek; “I-AM-A-TENTACLED-ALIEN-INSIDE-MECHANIZED-BATTLE-ARMOR-SHAPED-LIKE-A-GIANT-KNOBBY-DILDO. IF-DALEKS-ARE-NOT-INTENDED-TO-BE-SEXUAL-THEN-_NOBODY-IS-INTENDED-TO-BE-SEXUAL !_” Both of those links are non pornographic, so they follow the 2 click rule. ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/64 "2006-06-10T17:30:01Z")
Speaking of 4chan, I went into the yaoi section (at the bottom on the left) and posted some pics of tentacle x boy along with a request for any others that people might wish to share. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/65 "2006-06-10T17:39:16Z")
> [@Der Trihs](#): > > Then there’s [Ghastly’s Ghastly Comic](http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20010510.html), which includes a female character with a heavy tentacle rape/sex fetish. Another funny one is [here](http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20051211.html). I like the one with the Dalek; “I-AM-A-TENTACLED-ALIEN-INSIDE-MECHANIZED-BATTLE-ARMOR-SHAPED-LIKE-A-GIANT-KNOBBY-DILDO. IF-DALEKS-ARE-NOT-INTENDED-TO-BE-SEXUAL-THEN-_NOBODY-IS-INTENDED-TO-BE-SEXUAL !_” > > Both of those links are non pornographic, so they follow the 2 click rule. And are completely hilarious, I must say. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/66 "2006-06-10T17:45:22Z")
> [@kimera](#): > > Speaking of 4chan, I went into the yaoi section (at the bottom on the left) and posted some pics of tentacle x boy along with a request for any others that people might wish to share. Wowza! :eek: Well I feel exploited at least. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Throatwarbler_Mangrove)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/67 "2006-06-10T17:53:43Z")
I can offer little in the way of factual answers to the OP’s question. 1. It seems generally accepted that Toshio Maeda’s _Urotsukidoji_ (yes, I spelled it correctly on the first try)is the first modern foray into the genre, and that he did indeed use it to get around censorship. It seems strange today, since as far as I can tell, there is no modern day restriction on sex acts per se, but only on the depiction of genitalia. I remember when the first time I saw the _Urotsukidojo_ series in the late 1990s, I was quite suprised by the fact that there was _no_ censorship of any kind, although I cannot remember if there were any explicit depictions of normal sex. I think any censorship regulations that were in place in 1987 would have long been superceded, but perhaps it was the spark that started the genre off. [Interview](http://www.bigempire.com/sake/manga1.html) 1. [This](http://www.the-emperor.org/wiki/tentacle_porn/) fellow seems to think that the influence of Christianity in the west and Shintoism in Japan seems to have something to do with it. > [@](#): > > So drawing the various threads together I’d suggest that the reason for tentacle porn and why we in the West view it as very strange is because of the difference between animism, religions still based on the worship of nature (like Shinto), and Christianity (which rejected a lot of ‘pagan’ practices but incorporated others). As can be seen above pre-Christian European myths dealt openly with the blurring of the line between human and animal (even into sexual areas). Shinto, which worships numerous gods which are aspects of nature, is widespread in Japan and was once the state religion - it also has no strict rules, etc. and people can incorporate aspects of Shinto into other religions so the general ideas are even more widespread in Japan. It has to be relevant that the Edo Period (1600-1868), from which all the original pieces date from, saw an upsurge in the worship of Shinto. (information on Shinto). Although the modern resurgence in tentacle porn is a way to work around the rules of hentai it appears, to me anyway, that Japanese culture was more open to this kind of imagery. I’ve never been to Japan and I am not intimately familiar with Japanese culture, although I imagine real Japanese society probably differs somewhat from their portrayal in porn movies, so I can’t pass judgement either way. Perhaps one day, when my other goals in life are met, I will move to the west coast, do some graduate school and establish myself as the authority on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/68 "2006-06-10T18:24:31Z")
I’m wondering if the Japanese porn sensibility doesn’t have more to do with what’s happening in Japanese society today. Japanese society has been very male dominated. Women have been expected to subservient to men, obedient, etc. But modern Japanese women are having none of it. As a result, they aren’t marrying. From what I understand, there’s a growing cultural gap between Japanese men and women that isn’t healthy to that culture. It makes me wonder if the men’s desire for porn that fixates on power and control over women isn’t a reflection of that problem. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/69 "2006-06-10T18:54:00Z")
> [@Loopydude](#): > > Well, maybe, as it never occurred to me to get jiggy with a cuttlefish or somesuch, though maybe it’s just a cultural ick factor I’ve inherited. **dude!** You haven’t lived until you’ve had yourself some farm-fresh **prairie squid!** \* 😉 [http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/answers/questions/X0020\_Prarie\_squid\_.html](http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/answers/questions/X0020_Prarie_squid_.html) [http://www.fridayjones.com/firstsquid.html](http://www.fridayjones.com/firstsquid.html) - N.B.: Do not omit prior debeaking. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/70 "2006-06-10T23:45:43Z")
> [@](#): > > The squid, however, seemed to be awfully eager for the nectar that was flowing so bountifully from my love crack… ::saws open head, removes brain, get’s out commercial Chlorox and wire brush, begins vigorous scrubbing:: ---
**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/71 "2006-06-11T03:12:37Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > As a _pet_? > > “I’m sorry Daddy, he just followed me home and he was so cute!” That sort of thing??? No… As a lover. A very, very, VERY _enthusiastic_ lover. The father disapproved, until a scene where he tries to talk to it mano-a-mano, and it’s jokingly implied that it has it’s way with the father. It’s a comedy-porn manga, but it’s still definitely tentacle porn because it has graphics scenes with the 20-something daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/72 "2006-06-11T03:16:30Z")
> [@H3Knuckles](#): > > It’s a comedy-porn manga, but it’s still definitely tentacle porn because it has graphics scenes with the 20-something daughter. Note to self, look into where to find this manga. There’s too much of that violent-nasty hentai out there, at least from what I’ve run across. ---
**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665/73 "2006-06-11T03:16:59Z")
> [@Der Trihs](#): > > Then there’s [Ghastly’s Ghastly Comic](http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20010510.html), which includes a female character with a heavy tentacle rape/sex fetish. Another funny one is [here](http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20051211.html). I like the one with the Dalek; “I-AM-A-TENTACLED-ALIEN-INSIDE-MECHANIZED-BATTLE-ARMOR-SHAPED-LIKE-A-GIANT-KNOBBY-DILDO. IF-DALEKS-ARE-NOT-INTENDED-TO-BE-SEXUAL-THEN-_NOBODY-IS-INTENDED-TO-BE-SEXUAL !_” > > Both of those links are non pornographic, so they follow the 2 click rule. Good point, I’d considered mentioning old Ghastly, but I figured the point of this discussion was use of this as true porn, and while Ghastly can be a tad graphic sometimes, I don’t really think of it as porn. But hey, my favorite comics are the “drunk-and-bitter Jesus” ones. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/japanese-tentacle-porn/359665.md?page=3)