# Jason Alexander and other black holes of entertainment

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 9, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217 "2005-08-09T00:46:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/41 "2005-08-09T12:57:22Z")

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Colin Quinn just isn’t funny. He’s not smart. He’s not even a good wiseacre. He’s just a grating jerk. And I’d say the same for most of the Tough Crowd regulars, especially DiPaolo and Vos. Just. Not. Funny.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/42 "2005-08-09T13:03:30Z")

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Come on. You’ve got to give\*\* Donald Trump \*\* credit for being a brilliant marketer. I mean, his ventures are constantly failing (his Taj Mahal in Atlantic City being the latest), yet people continue to believe that he’s an awesome businessman.

I like \*\*Jason Alexander \*\* and think he’s quite talented. Sorry, Blue.

I still wonder what Tara Reid has done to make her famous.

Then we have all the desperate B-list celebrities who have sold their souls to the Reality Show Machine in hopes of keeping their names in the spotlight another minute or two:

\*\*Ozzy Osbourne \*\* (sorry, your music sucks and your kids are fucked up)  
\*\*Britney Spears and Kevin Federline \*\* (she should have quit while she was ahead)  
\*\*Bobby Brown \*\* (He dragged his wife, who actually DID have talent, into the gutter with him)  
\*\*Farrah Fawcett \*\* (a walking “Just Say ‘No’” billboard)  
\*\*Paris Hilton \*\* (she’s not hot)

As far as actors have have never had talent (e.g. **Melanie Griffith** ) and it boggles the mind how they manage to get roles, please add:

**Bill Pullman**  
**Kevin Costner**  
**Elizabeth Hurley**

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/43 "2005-08-09T13:04:24Z")

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Michael Ian Black. Everything he’s done would be better if he was’t in it.

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**Author:** ![rorty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b2d939/32.png) [@rorty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rorty)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/44 "2005-08-09T13:05:34Z")

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Yeah, I really hated Vos. I thought he had a horrible attitude.

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**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/45 "2005-08-09T14:51:57Z")

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I predict that **Tom Cruise** will never work in this town again.

:: d & r ::

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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/46 "2005-08-09T15:08:24Z")

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The 1st thing that popped into my mind…

> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> As some of you may recall, I hate Jason Alexander. A lot. He tops my “How the hell does a talentless hack like him continue to get work?” list…

> [@Michael Geary](#):
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> I don’t know you from Adam, right? You come to my office with this bizarro ‘rant’ and demand I look into it. Okay. I said I’d check it out and I did. Now I don’t know what kind of fool you take me for, but you have used and abused me, and I don’t like it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/47 "2005-08-09T15:32:53Z")

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> [@rorty](#):
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> I think I was one of the few people that enjoyed Colin Quinn’s _Tough Crowd_. I don’t laugh out loud at Colin Quinn, but at some level I find him funny. I liked his weekend updates on _SNL_ as well. I think it’s his terrible delivery. He has a lot of trouble spitting out the words in his mind. I must find the ‘tried, but failed’ approach to be more funny than it is.

I agree with this. I can’t explain it, but I just find something about Colin Quinn’s absolute inability to tell a joke charming. He sucks, but he tries so hard, I can’t help rooting for him.

Big second (third) for Julia “Horseteeth” Roberts, and a nom for her male counterpart, Smarmlord Richard Gere. Roberts, at least, has occasionally been able to make a movie in which she did not _entirely_ suck. Gere, on the other hand, is entirely worthless.

And saying that Carrottop is the best prop comedian out there is like saying you caught the good kind of herpes.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/48 "2005-08-09T15:37:38Z")

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(Gee I hardly know any of these people. I have been out of the mainstream for a long time.)

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/49 "2005-08-09T15:58:36Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> I still wonder what Tara Reid has done to make her famous.

[Not entirely safe for work](http://www.big-boys.com/articles/reidslip.html)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/50 "2005-08-09T16:00:05Z")

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Many will disagree, but Hal Sparks- there’s just something so totally artificial and smarmy and mugging about him that I look for the “delete” button on the remote control.

Also, he was a producer of _I Love the 80s_ and _I Love the 70s_, two shows that would have been so much better if they hadn’t just relied on him, Michael Ian Black and Moe Rocca deadpan sarcastic trashing of whatever the topic was (and why in the hell have people on _I Love the 70s_ who couldn’t even remember the decade?).

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/51 "2005-08-09T16:00:55Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Gere, on the other hand, is entirely worthless.

Until _Chicago_ I would have agreed. He was perfect for that role, though, and did a good job as Billy Flynn.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/52 "2005-08-09T16:02:28Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> [Not entirely safe for work](http://www.big-boys.com/articles/reidslip.html)

Weird. She has, like, no aureole.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/53 "2005-08-09T16:04:38Z")

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I don’t really have an opinion on Jason Alexander one way or the other.

My list of ‘black holes’ to avoid at all costs would be:

For annoyance on vast scale across so many categories:  
**Carrottop**

For voices that actually cause houseplants to die (as well as annoying personalities):  
**Pauly Shore  
Bobcat Goldthwait  
Fran Drescher**

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/54 "2005-08-09T16:10:09Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> [Not entirely safe for work](http://www.big-boys.com/articles/reidslip.html)

Got a really horrible boob job?

She’s a walking nightmare. I don’t see anything appealing about her.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/55 "2005-08-09T19:12:01Z")

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Pauly Shore has never been funny.

**Martin Lawrence** did make my guilty pleasure movie **Black Knight** which is much more entertaining than, say, the English Patient. I can’t say anything else about his work because I’ve never seen it.  
**Ozzy Osborne** isn’t entertaining, he is a mumbling baffoon who has a fucked up family because he is a baffoon.  
**Melanie Griffith** is not only one of the worst actresses of our time, she somehow managed to get the hottie and talented **Antonio Banderas** to marry her. There is no god.

**Andy Dick** is just plan unfunny in a creepy kinda way.

**Rap Dancing** where the Main Singer is in the middle and the rest of the dancers are in triangle formation behind and to the side of her/him. Ok, did you guys and gals miss the memo or are you all doing the same fucking dancing in every video? I hope you all …each and everyone of you…fall into a deep river and are carried to the bottom because of your bling. You talentless skinny booty’d hacks.

**Dave Chappelle** just not funny. Every time your show has been on and I’ve seen it you are doing Rick James/Cocaine is a helluva drug bit.

**Gallagher** is the anti-Christ.

**Nicole Kidman** just plain sucks in the acting department. Yes, she is very pretty in an ice maiden kinda way, but she ruins every movie she is in with her one dimensional acting. She was given her oscar as a present from the rest of Hollywood as an apology for putting up with her dick of an exhusband.  
**Jada Pinkett Smith** I just don’t like you and it is because you were the worst hippo’s voice ever.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/56 "2005-08-09T19:46:06Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> For voices that actually cause houseplants to die (as well as annoying personalities):  
> **Fran Drescher**

I could just watch her all day, with the volume turned down. She might have an annoying voice (exaggerated for the characters she plays), but she is one of the sexiest women on television, IMO. She just kills me.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/57 "2005-08-09T21:02:39Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> [Fran Drescher] might have an annoying voice (exaggerated for the characters she plays), but she is one of the sexiest women on television, IMO. She just kills me.

I’m gay as the proverbial goose and I would agree with that. The way she filled out those outfits was just smokin’. She also has wonderful comic timing.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/58 "2005-08-09T21:03:59Z")

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PS- I even noticed her in [Ragtime](http://imdb.com/title/tt0082970/), when she was onscreen (as Mandy Patinkin’s disgraced wife) for less than a minute.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jason-alexander-and-other-black-holes-of-entertainment/316217/59 "2005-08-09T21:38:47Z")

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> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> **Dave Chappelle** just not funny. Every time your show has been on and I’ve seen it you are doing Rick James/Cocaine is a helluva drug bit.

Well, hon, you need to recalibrate your funny bone. 'Cause Dave is piss-your-pants funny. The Rick James bit is good, but the Prince one is even better. And the night out with Wayne Brady is over the top. Not to mention the Black Klan Leader, the Player Haters and the Oprah sketch.

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