# Jay Gruden Replaces Shanahan **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 9, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357 "2014-01-09T14:31:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/21 "2014-01-09T20:40:36Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > He should fire himself as GM, but then, so should Jerry Jones. He’s got Bruce Allen as nominal GM. What he should really do is let his GM actually call some shots (and maybe get a new one). ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/22 "2014-01-09T20:50:44Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > He’s got Bruce Allen as nominal GM. What he should really do is let his GM actually call some shots (and maybe get a new one). He does have at least _some_ real power, unlike his predecessor, Vinny Cerrato, who was merely Snyder’s bitch boy, and who I’m pretty sure is actually mentally retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/23 "2014-01-09T21:42:23Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Synder, having gone through eight coaches in sixteen years (is that any kind of a record?) has shown one thing: he’s unwilling to fire the one common element in this ongoing clusterfuck. > > But I have to admit something: I sort of get it. I am honest enough to admit to myself that because I am a football fan, if I had enough money to buy the Redskins, as owner I’d be worse. I would meddle in the coaching like the Mayor of Meddleburg. I would be involved in the draft, the training camp, the sidelines on game days… I might suit up and take a few snaps just to be able to say I played pro football. why? _Because I could_. > > Now, hopefully after a year of seeing how disastrous that was, I’d wise up, because I’m not a moron. > > OK, not much of a moron. > > OK, not a complete moron. > > Ok, you know what? Never mind. So, basically, you would be Jerry Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/24 "2014-01-10T10:40:46Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > So, basically, you would be Jerry Jones. I like to imagine it as “Jerry Jones with style.” But yes. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/25 "2014-01-10T14:07:42Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I’m thinking he meant ‘Snyder’ and just slipped up. Yeah, which is why it would be hilarious to think of Shanahan still interfering. Like some sort of vengeful gremlin. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/26 "2014-01-10T14:12:48Z")
For a wild moment I thought it was Jon who got a coaching job and I was rejoicing at never having to listen to him again blathering away on MNF. Sigh. Wrong Gruden. Every year I pray for Jon to go back to coaching but it never happens. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/27 "2014-01-11T01:25:16Z")
😃 😃 quite a few people get Jon and Jay mixed up. Jay Gruden is the new skins coach. Jon is an ESPN football analyst. > [@bob\_bolger](#): > > Not in a world with Al Davis. > Al managed to “beat” that twice with the Oakland Raiders > > 96-2011 - 9 different coaches > 97-2012 - 9 different coaches. > > The only one in that era with a winning record… Jon Gruden. Bringing us back to the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/28 "2014-01-16T17:50:34Z")
I remember going to see a Louisville game with my dad when Jay Gruden was the quarterback. Our seats were behind one of the end zones, and I spent most of the game annoyed that seemingly all of the good stuff was taking place at the other end of the field. But it worked out at the end, when the Cardinals capped a big comeback with a touchdown in our end zone. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357/29 "2014-01-16T18:06:34Z")
I say him play a ton of Arena games. It’s kind of sad that he never got an NFL shot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jay-gruden-replaces-shanahan/678357.md?page=1)