# JC, Mark Warnings Clearer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552>\
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**Created:** [January 17, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552 "2020-01-17T05:16:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/1 "2020-01-17T05:16:19Z")

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[This one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22084413&postcount=277). Might want to mark it more clearly as an official warning (which it is), rather than the ambiguous “The Moderatator Speaks” crap.

Not for me (who gets the PM) but so everyone else knows either accusing someone of sealioning or parroting (or both?) is considered a warnable offence in GD.

Note this isn’t an objection to my warning, just a pointer towards clearer moderation.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/2 "2020-01-17T14:46:35Z")

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Seconded. I had no idea that post got a warning until now. Clear moderation is always better, and I’ll add that this goes for notes, too – “enough of that” and similar sort of vague instruction often doesn’t provide enough information (in addition to, IMO, sounding unprofessional and school-marm-ish). I recommend clear instruction like “this looks to me like it’s crossing the line into [X behavior… i.e. insults, trolling, etc.] – any subsequent posts along this line will receive a warning”. Or similar. Hopefully that makes sense.

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/3 "2020-01-17T15:42:50Z")

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Yes, please. Also, I know someone posted before that depending on the skin being used and whether you are viewing in portrait or landscape, posters may not see the title of the post. So I did not see the “The Moderator Speaks” title when viewing on my phone.

Include your moderation tags in the post. Be clear in the moderating post what the result and expectation are, i.e. a warning or note for the poster, a reminder to all to keep it civil, a reminder that staff are cutting down on hijacks, whatever.

Thanks from a lurker.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/4 "2020-01-17T16:22:14Z")

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Agreed; I would have certainly missed that in a general read of the thread and possibly run afoul later on.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/5 "2020-01-17T20:53:00Z")

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> [@stretch](#):
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> Yes, please. Also, I know someone posted before that depending on the skin being used and whether you are viewing in portrait or landscape, posters may not see the title of the post. So I did not see the “The Moderator Speaks” title when viewing on my phone.
> 
> Include your moderation tags in the post. Be clear in the moderating post what the result and expectation are, i.e. a warning or note for the poster, a reminder to all to keep it civil, a reminder that staff are cutting down on hijacks, whatever.
> 
> Thanks from a lurker.

Yeah, I can’t see “The Moderator Speaks” from my phone and now that you mentioned it, I’ve never seen it so didn’t even know it existed.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/6 "2020-01-17T20:59:08Z")

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Wow, I never realized I wasn’t seeing titles on my phone. Yeah, probably best not to use that for official purposes.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/7 "2020-01-17T21:29:52Z")

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I was surprised to see that not get a warning. Maybe it’d be a good idea to go back and edit the post to make the warning explicit for others to see?

On the other hand, thanks for not fucking around.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/8 "2020-01-17T21:42:44Z")

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But even those of you who can’t see the titles, you can still hear Jonathan Chance speaking, though, right? Or is that just me?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/9 "2020-01-17T21:48:14Z")

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> [@Borborygmi](#):
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> But even those of you who can’t see the titles, you can still hear Jonathan Chance speaking, though, right? Or is that just me?

Without surcease. I can no longer sleep because of the spectral tones of his voice in my ears. I would deafen myself, except for the terror that his voice would continue to resonate in my mind.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/10 "2020-01-17T22:38:53Z")

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I can no longer **not** hear him speaking.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/11 "2020-01-18T01:33:31Z")

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I’m RIGHT here.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/12 "2020-01-18T01:52:58Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> [This one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22084413&postcount=277). Might want to mark it more clearly as an official warning (which it is), rather than the ambiguous “The Moderatator Speaks” crap.
> 
> Not for me (who gets the PM) but so everyone else knows either accusing someone of sealioning or parroting (or both?) is considered a warnable offence in GD.
> 
> Note this isn’t an objection to my warning, just a pointer towards clearer moderation.

But was it a warning, or just a note to go take a shower and cool off? Can’t speak for everyone but I’ve been warned - like obviously warned - and told to hit the showers and cool off, and there’s a difference, with the latter not being yellow carded.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/13 "2020-01-18T02:51:21Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Wow, I never realized I wasn’t seeing titles on my phone. Yeah, probably best not to use that for official purposes.

And, I’ve got to admit, I’ve never noticed it either.

Color it is, then.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/14 "2020-01-18T03:18:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I was surprised to see that not get a warning. Maybe it’d be a good idea to go back and edit the post to make the warning explicit for others to see?
> 
> On the other hand, thanks for not fucking around.

Bad link. Did you mean to go here:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22086108&postcount=61](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22086108&postcount=61)

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/15 "2020-01-18T07:26:18Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> But was it a warning, or just a note to go take a shower and cool off?

It was an official, on-the-record warning. You get a separate PM and an entry in your User CP infractions list, with those.

**JC** , you still haven’t answered my PM question, BTW. In a PM, please.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/16 "2020-01-18T18:51:31Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Bad link. Did you mean to go here:
> 
> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22086108&postcount=61](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22086108&postcount=61)

Yup. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-mark-warnings-clearer/846552/17 "2020-01-18T19:24:45Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Seconded. I had no idea that post got a warning until now. Clear moderation is always better, and I’ll add that this goes for notes, too – “enough of that” and similar sort of vague instruction often doesn’t provide enough information (in addition to, IMO, sounding unprofessional and school-marm-ish). I recommend clear instruction like “this looks to me like it’s crossing the line into [X behavior… i.e. insults, trolling, etc.] – any subsequent posts along this line will receive a warning”. Or similar. Hopefully that makes sense.

> [@stretch](#):
>
> Include your moderation tags in the post. Be clear in the moderating post what the result and expectation are, i.e. a warning or note for the poster, a reminder to all to keep it civil, a reminder that staff are cutting down on hijacks, whatever.

Yes, this is the way to provide clear moderation.
