# JC: Why did you close this thread in GD? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 30, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667 "2016-01-30T17:35:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/1 "2016-01-30T17:35:09Z")
[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=613338). Granted, it was about justifying pedophilia, but if one reads your mod post upon closing it, it looks like you did so because one poster got warned. Which would seem like a bad reason to close a thread. Did you close it because of the topic and/or the the guy who resurrected it as a Zombie? I didn’t see any warnings given to him, and he wasn’t banned, so I assume not. > [@](#): > > **The Moderator Speaks** > > [Quote=Tangent] > > This guy really wants to fuck some kids. For God’s sake. Warning. Closed. [/quote] Just to be extremely clear: I’m not arguing that the thread should have been left open. I just don’t think there was anywhere near a good explanation as to why it was closed. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/2 "2016-01-30T18:27:02Z")
Why was **Tangent** warned for posting the reasonable enough assumption - given his posts - that **Henry Miller** really wants to fuck some kids? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/3 "2016-01-30T18:39:12Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Why was **Tangent** warned for posting the reasonable enough assumption - given his posts - that **Henry Miller** really wants to fuck some kids? Exactly. **Tangent** summarized the poster’s wall-o-text extremely well. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/4 "2016-01-30T18:41:48Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Why was **Tangent** warned for posting the reasonable enough assumption - given his posts - that **Henry Miller** really wants to fuck some kids? Because as much as H.M was asking for it, you can’t insult a poster. Or this is one of those times you take one for the team. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/5 "2016-01-30T18:56:54Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Because as much as H.M was asking for it, you can’t insult a poster. > > Or this is one of those times you take one for the team. Was that really an insult? Is it possible **JC** actually meant the warning to be directed at **H. Miller**? It would be nice to get a fuller explanation of what that moderation was all about. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/6 "2016-01-30T19:06:08Z")
From what I understand of the rules, if poster A posts a long impassioned screed in defense of kiddy-diddling and poster B says “So, you want to have sex with children?”, Poster B will draw a warning. Not sure of the reasoning behind this. **Tangent** would not have been warned on any sane board. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/7 "2016-01-30T19:06:28Z")
Esp. since it seems like a perfectly accurate description of said OP’er. “Hi everybody, new Doper here! I want to talk about HAVING sex with cantalopes!” “So he’s a cantalope fucker.” “TWEET! WARNING!” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/8 "2016-01-30T19:08:43Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Was that really an insult? Is it possible **JC** actually meant the warning to be directed at **H. Miller**? It would be nice to get a fuller explanation of what that moderation was all about. I figured that’s what it was for. I quick-read through the Hoover Dam of text and I didn’t see where H.M. said he was a pedo or had those desires so he appeared to be merely making the argument. Lord knows why. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/9 "2016-01-30T19:45:43Z")
1. Zombie thread. 2. Bumped by wall-o-text 3. A thread close to generating into abuse and such If that’s not a cause for closure, I don’t know what is. As for the warning? We’ve had self-professed pedophiles on the board before and it’s been permitted. However icky - and I agree that it’s icky, God knows - so long as the discussion remains civil and no one’s actively describing ways to get away with it or posting where and how to pick up first graders. On the other hand, there’s a vast difference between 'So, you like having sex with kids, eh?" and the intentionally insulting, “This guy \*really \*wants to fuck some kids.” For one thing, it’s not an attempt at discussion…tangent is playing to the audience. For another, it’s presenting in an intentionally insulting manner. That’ll pick up a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/10 "2016-01-30T19:55:07Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > As for the warning? We’ve had self-professed pedophiles on the board before and it’s been permitted. Why? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/11 "2016-01-30T20:00:40Z")
Well, I didn’t draft the registration agreement, nor was I a mod at the time, so I can just give my answer. Why not? We’re - supposedly - about the exchange of ideas and discussion. Pedophilia is certainly something that is discussable. So when someone comes here claiming to be a pedophile - whether they act on it or not - should we just automatically shut it down because some of us find it icky? Honestly, if Mary Kay LeTourneau showed up one day and started an ‘Ask the…’ thread wouldn’t that have value? It’d sure be a change of pace. And provided she didn’t tell others the best way to evade the law and how to recruit youngsters for sex I think she’d be within the registration agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/12 "2016-01-30T20:02:58Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > On the other hand, there’s a vast difference between 'So, you like having sex with kids, eh?" and the intentionally insulting, “This guy \*really \*wants to fuck some kids.” I’m not seeing a vast difference there, to be honest. The former implies that the target has actually fucked some kids, and the latter that it is merely an ambition. What’s the more insulting again? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/13 "2016-01-30T20:05:41Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > On the other hand, there’s a vast difference between 'So, you like having sex with kids, eh?" and the intentionally insulting, “This guy \*really \*wants to fuck some kids.” No, there really isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/14 "2016-01-30T20:05:46Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Why? It’s legal to be a pedophile. It’s not legal to act on those needs. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/15 "2016-01-30T20:10:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s legal to be a pedophile. It’s not legal to act on those needs. Sure, but so what? If I owned a bar and a customer came in talking about having sex with kids, doing so so loudly and insistently that other customers were getting grossed out and settling up, I’d cut the guy off and ask him to leave. The dope lost good posters after the **Cesario** debacle– **Jodi** , for one. I guess they’ve learned nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/16 "2016-01-30T20:37:09Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > On the other hand, there’s a vast difference between 'So, you like having sex with kids, eh?" and the intentionally insulting, “This guy \*really \*wants to fuck some kids.” I think claiming there’s “a vast difference” between those statements is a bit of a stretch. If there is a difference, it’s pretty thin. The latter is, at worst, a slightly harsher way of stating the former. > [@](#): > > For one thing, it’s not an attempt at discussion…tangent is playing to the audience. That’s a good point and I can’t argue there. > [@](#): > > For another, it’s presenting in an intentionally insulting manner. I can see this but honestly it looks to me more like an honest objective assessment of the guy’s beliefs based on that post. He rather clearly wants to have sex with kids or at least give us the appearance that he wants to have sex with kids. Personally, I think he should have gotten at worst a note, but that’s me. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/17 "2016-01-30T20:48:27Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > The dope lost good posters after the **Cesario** debacle– **Jodi** , for one. I guess they’ve learned nothing. Maybe it’s not The Dope that didn’t learn the lesson. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/18 "2016-01-30T21:04:59Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > 1. Zombie thread. > 2. Bumped by wall-o-text > 3. A thread close to generating into abuse and such > > If that’s not a cause for closure, I don’t know what is. Oh, OK. But you didn’t list any of those reasons in your post when you closed the thread. Hence the curiosity. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/19 "2016-01-30T21:19:28Z")
> [@](#): > > This guy really wants to fuck some kids. Could be an accurate assessment. Or it could be **Henry Miller** wasn’t being totally sincere. But since there’s a thread pitting him, probably the safest thing that **Tangent** might have done would be to have posted that comment there. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/20 "2016-01-30T21:56:29Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > 1. Zombie thread. > 2. Bumped by wall-o-text > 3. A thread close to generating into abuse and such > > If that’s not a cause for closure, I don’t know what is. > > … Let’s see. #1. Zombie thread? I didn’t realize that was ever a reason to close a thread. #2. Wall of text? Annoying but still no reason to close a thread. #3. Close to generating abuse? How close is close? Naaa, I prefer to think you were equally put off by the tone of a particular poster’s shtick. If that’s the case, I totally agree with you. IMHO, he was advocating, or promoting, illegal activity and should have had his balls removed with the ban hammer. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667.md?page=2)