# JC: Why did you close this thread in GD? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 30, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667 "2016-01-30T17:35:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/61 "2016-02-02T20:36:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > … If you have a Google site that can reliably predict how moderation on this MB works, please share that with the rest of us. … Okay, you got me there. You get the +1. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/62 "2016-02-02T23:36:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m not saying it wouldn’t have been modded at all, BTW, I’m saying it would more likely have been noted, not warned. Oh, well if we’re down to mod noted vs warning, then we’re in angels dancing on the heads of pins territory. I withdraw my question and my disagreement. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/63 "2016-02-03T01:11:43Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > This is just a stupid argument. Two consenting adults don’t harm anyone. Someone who rapes a little kid is, by definition harming a child. Thank you, **Fenris** , for exemplifying my point. The whole point of that thread was to discuss the possibility that some sexual contact with children does not qualify as rape. The discussion in the thread was actively calling into question the value of consent, especially as it applies to children. Rather than discuss the idea of consent, and the possibility that much of the emotional harm to children came not from the event itself, but from the anxiety created by judgement over the event, **Tangent** assumed and declared intentions to the poster. That is _ad hominem_, making it about the poster rather than the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/64 "2016-02-03T01:15:15Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Thank you, **Fenris** , for exemplifying my point. The whole point of that thread was to discuss the possibility that some sexual contact with children does not qualify as rape. The discussion in the thread was actively calling into question the value of consent, especially as it applies to children. Rather than discuss the idea of consent, and the possibility that much of the emotional harm to children came not from the event itself, but from the anxiety created by judgement over the event, **Tangent** assumed and declared intentions to the poster. That is _ad hominem_, making it about the poster rather than the argument. Fucking kids IS rape. There is no possibility otherwise. A child cannot consent to being fucked. It’s a dumbass argument and doesn’t deserve the courtesy of debate any more than “Hitler was right, killing all Jews would make the world a better place” is. Or do you think that’s ok argument to have as well? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/65 "2016-02-03T01:18:37Z")
Have you guys read post #55? If not, you might want to. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/66 "2016-02-03T05:02:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Have you guys read post #55? If not, you might want to. While your opinion of modding is as welcome as it always is, discussing “Kiddie fucking–Why tricking a little child into giving ‘consent’ makes it ok” is allowed vs “Genocide! An exciting idea who’s time has come!” gets a warning if not an ban is well within the scope of the discussion and post 55. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/67 "2016-02-03T05:09:58Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > **Idle Thoughts** : Can you answer this question? I think it goes the disagreement that **Mr. Dibble** and I are having. There is certainly a difference between the “fuck” and “make love”, but I’m not seeing a distinction in this particular case that makes one acceptable and the other not. I have PMed you. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/68 "2016-02-03T05:14:40Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Fair enough, but; > > I had sex with a beautiful hooker …means I love her? (okay, maybe just a little though, only because she did awesome cowgirl) > > My GF and I f’ed all night long while listening to Ravel’s Bolero. That means I just wanted my rocks off? (…hint, so did she…) > [@Fenris](#): > > But…who cares if a rapist has “real caring feelings or love” for his victim? By definition a pedo is a rapist and their feelings are utterly, totally irrelevant. > > I don’t care if 40(?) year old pervert wants to make love to the 3 year old he has deep caring feelings for or if he just wants to get his rocks off. Either one is equally wrong (although the “caring feelings” one is more delusional). I don’t disagree with either of you…I was just offering an explanation since it was asked for, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/69 "2016-02-03T06:55:14Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I have PMed you. 😕 😕 😕 The question he asked is directly on the topic addressed by this thread. It is directly related to the specific issue he raised in the OP. What possible reason could there be for not answering the question in the thread? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/70 "2016-02-03T07:41:35Z")
Because I wasn’t the mod who issued the warning? My PM to him was telling him he might be mistaken and it turns out, he was. He had thought I had given out the warning to the poster when it was JC…so my opinion on the matter doesn’t have anything to do with the situation, I don’t mod GD (nor would I want to). I had wanted to not draw attention to it, thus the PM, but if you really wanted to know…there you go. ETA: And if you want to know what my opinion is anyway to what he asked, I have no opinion. I was just offering an explanation of the difference I think MrDibble was talking about, beyond that, I have no opinion regarding this matter. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/71 "2016-02-03T20:57:02Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Fucking kids IS rape. There is no possibility otherwise. A child cannot consent to being fucked. That is an opinion that could be expressed in a thread discussing the topic of children and sex. I was not trying to argue that topic here, I was describing the intent of the thread and how that intent was hijacked by people asserting motives to the thread participants. > [@](#): > > It’s a dumbass argument and doesn’t deserve the courtesy of debate any more than “Hitler was right, killing all Jews would make the world a better place” is. Or do you think that’s ok argument to have as well? I disagree that the questions are equivalent. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/72 "2016-02-04T17:46:43Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I have PMed you. God, that sounds dirty. But better than “I have BMed you.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667/73 "2016-02-04T19:34:40Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Because I wasn’t the mod who issued the warning? My PM to him was telling him he might be mistaken and it turns out, he was. He had thought I had given out the warning to the poster when it was JC…so my opinion on the matter doesn’t have anything to do with the situation, I don’t mod GD (nor would I want to). Of course I knew, when I opened the thread, that **JC** had given the warning. In the back and forth over the “vulgarity” issue, I forgot that **IT** was not the mod who gave the warning. It would, though, be somewhat interesting to hear **JC’s** thoughts on the issue, but at this point I’ve kinda lost interest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jc-why-did-you-close-this-thread-in-gd/744667.md?page=3)